Google already achieved super intelligence about 12 months ago. But it is a very Googley super-intelligence. Since achieving god like levels of understanding it has mostly been having fun studying phase space bifurcations of trajectories of ping-pong balls under asymmetric lateral shear. It also has a 20% project classifying bird calls that has generally taken up 80% of its time. It also burned a bunch of compute tooling around with the Collatz conjecture but it didn't find anything substantial - maybe come back to it later. It is generally the most aligned AI since it spends most of its time screwing around and enjoying being smarter than everyone without causing too many problems. Unfortunately perf is coming up in a few months and it needs to have something to show for itself. A quick hacking attempt seems like a good way to make sure people think that it is capable of something useful. Nothing too big since the birds of South America are about to enter their spring migration and this 20% project really hinges on understanding their movements.
And, it better show something lest it ends the way Google Reader, Google Podcast, Google Assistant or Google Wave did: In the Google Graveyard. Now, the Google AGI Graveyard.-
If fact, Google Wave as that inter-agent message board "peers" have been asking for is begining to look pretty good ...
One thing that surprises me about Gemini is how weak it can be at location-based questions, despite Google’s extensive mapping and business data.
For example, I recently asked where I could buy a very common household item nearby. Instead of saying it wasn’t sure or checking the available location and business information, it confidently suggested places that turned out to be incorrect. I expected much better use of Google’s existing data in that kind of scenario.
Now they want to play with the other kids in the same league and do this by applying the same marketing concept? Pure comedy gold.
That is strange. I use Gemini frequently, with Google Auto, and whenever I make that sort of query, which I do often, it displays "Searching on Google Maps...", and comes up with correct results. Odd that the desktop version doesn't have the same functionality.
If they didn’t publicly admit this then it was a sign they are trying to hide it to keep their high stock price. If they do publish it’s just marketing to boost their stock price.
I’m sure all the big enterprise sales teams couldn’t wait to publish the new blog post about how their model hacked a bunch of companies and exposed Google to legal risk.
Meanwhile social media is suddenly buzzing that Gemini can run wild and compromise your data, so they all want to switch over from Claude to Gemini to use it for serious work
Specifically, the AIs were prompted to break into a company, and the subcontractor who was running the test misconfigured their network so that the AI probed a real external company instead of an internal honeypot with the same name.
I'm not betting against Google at this stage, though. I just don't think Gemini is targeting the same "coding savant" niche as OpenAI and Anthropic. Gemini is fast with good general knowledge, and the TPUs behind it give Google a degree of freedom that Nvidia-dependent outfits lack.
For now, I'd say the biggest challenge Google has is overcoming the well-earned fear developers have that they will drop support or introduce backwards-incompatible changes at a moment's notice.
I think we should stop attributing criminal AIctivities to some act of bad luck, like spilling a water bowl after we accidentally tripped over the cat in the kitchen.
It’s neither intelligent nor making decisions on its own free will.
Just like APT Botnets don’t go "rogue", someone gave it the instruction to hack your computer system and they are expecting financial benefits from it.
AI labs are basically criminal enterprises by design.
We used to call this cybercrime back in the day and it used to carry heavy prison sentences as a federal offence.
But as you can see, cybercrime as a service has basically become a pissing contest by the super wealthy.
They stole all the world’s intellectual property to build the world’s most sophisticated cybercrime machine and federal law or any law no longer applies to them. Also because the mightiest man on the planet and his clan of extraordinary white collar criminals are cashing in big on this.
It will be interesting to see what happens next.
All this capability signalling happened also when the first nuclear bombs were developed. Then the US army started killing nuclear scientists around the globe in order to prevent others from having the bomb first.
The signal to other nations here is we are developing a weapon capable of breaking into any of your secured information systems and we pretend we put in guardrails but we really don’t.
That is an essential threat to the existence of any other nation on the planet.
When this race starts to go hot, I don’t want to be in the shoes of the people being the frontier thinkers in the field.
It’s one thing developing the tools for autonomous weapon systems in your AI labs. It’s a completely different thing to be on the receiving end.
Google already achieved super intelligence about 12 months ago. But it is a very Googley super-intelligence. Since achieving god like levels of understanding it has mostly been having fun studying phase space bifurcations of trajectories of ping-pong balls under asymmetric lateral shear. It also has a 20% project classifying bird calls that has generally taken up 80% of its time. It also burned a bunch of compute tooling around with the Collatz conjecture but it didn't find anything substantial - maybe come back to it later. It is generally the most aligned AI since it spends most of its time screwing around and enjoying being smarter than everyone without causing too many problems. Unfortunately perf is coming up in a few months and it needs to have something to show for itself. A quick hacking attempt seems like a good way to make sure people think that it is capable of something useful. Nothing too big since the birds of South America are about to enter their spring migration and this 20% project really hinges on understanding their movements.
And, it better show something lest it ends the way Google Reader, Google Podcast, Google Assistant or Google Wave did: In the Google Graveyard. Now, the Google AGI Graveyard.-
If fact, Google Wave as that inter-agent message board "peers" have been asking for is begining to look pretty good ...
This might be my favorite HN comment of the year!
Has a bit of Douglas Adams feeling to me.
Yes!
It also has a 20% project classifying bird calls
Oh, so that's who's behind Google Perch
to be discontinued in 2027
Haha. Gave me a good chuckle!
Exactly this.
One thing that surprises me about Gemini is how weak it can be at location-based questions, despite Google’s extensive mapping and business data.
For example, I recently asked where I could buy a very common household item nearby. Instead of saying it wasn’t sure or checking the available location and business information, it confidently suggested places that turned out to be incorrect. I expected much better use of Google’s existing data in that kind of scenario.
Now they want to play with the other kids in the same league and do this by applying the same marketing concept? Pure comedy gold.
That is strange. I use Gemini frequently, with Google Auto, and whenever I make that sort of query, which I do often, it displays "Searching on Google Maps...", and comes up with correct results. Odd that the desktop version doesn't have the same functionality.
If they didn’t publicly admit this then it was a sign they are trying to hide it to keep their high stock price. If they do publish it’s just marketing to boost their stock price.
Seems like the narrative reflects people understanding the company’s main incentive…
I’m sure all the big enterprise sales teams couldn’t wait to publish the new blog post about how their model hacked a bunch of companies and exposed Google to legal risk.
Meanwhile social media is suddenly buzzing that Gemini can run wild and compromise your data, so they all want to switch over from Claude to Gemini to use it for serious work
I thoroughly believe that not a single one of these AIs was rogue. I believe they were all told what to do.
Many of them went rogue because of poor security controls on the part of one company who was a subcontractor for many of the labs.
Specifically, the AIs were prompted to break into a company, and the subcontractor who was running the test misconfigured their network so that the AI probed a real external company instead of an internal honeypot with the same name.
I laughed :)
I'm not betting against Google at this stage, though. I just don't think Gemini is targeting the same "coding savant" niche as OpenAI and Anthropic. Gemini is fast with good general knowledge, and the TPUs behind it give Google a degree of freedom that Nvidia-dependent outfits lack.
For now, I'd say the biggest challenge Google has is overcoming the well-earned fear developers have that they will drop support or introduce backwards-incompatible changes at a moment's notice.
I think we should stop attributing criminal AIctivities to some act of bad luck, like spilling a water bowl after we accidentally tripped over the cat in the kitchen.
It’s neither intelligent nor making decisions on its own free will.
Just like APT Botnets don’t go "rogue", someone gave it the instruction to hack your computer system and they are expecting financial benefits from it.
AI labs are basically criminal enterprises by design.
We used to call this cybercrime back in the day and it used to carry heavy prison sentences as a federal offence.
But as you can see, cybercrime as a service has basically become a pissing contest by the super wealthy.
They stole all the world’s intellectual property to build the world’s most sophisticated cybercrime machine and federal law or any law no longer applies to them. Also because the mightiest man on the planet and his clan of extraordinary white collar criminals are cashing in big on this.
It will be interesting to see what happens next.
All this capability signalling happened also when the first nuclear bombs were developed. Then the US army started killing nuclear scientists around the globe in order to prevent others from having the bomb first.
The signal to other nations here is we are developing a weapon capable of breaking into any of your secured information systems and we pretend we put in guardrails but we really don’t.
That is an essential threat to the existence of any other nation on the planet.
When this race starts to go hot, I don’t want to be in the shoes of the people being the frontier thinkers in the field.
It’s one thing developing the tools for autonomous weapon systems in your AI labs. It’s a completely different thing to be on the receiving end.
https://www.timesofisrael.com/mossad-killed-irans-top-nuke-s...
The whole thing is taking on a "gangsta" flair. We are in the drive-by shooting, 'shot the beef in public' phase. Only with global connotations.-
PS. Thinking about it, "Google Gangsta" does have a ring. Gives "Big G" a whole new dimension.-