How is $5/day irrelevant? In the $150/mo range you can get effectively unlimited usage of GPT 5.6 Sol (Pro plan). Why use a much weaker model for the same price?
How is $5/day irrelevant? In the $150/mo range you can get effectively unlimited usage of GPT 5.6 Sol (Pro plan). Why use a much weaker model for the same price?
> In the $150/mo range you can get effectively unlimited usage of GPT 5.6 Sol
With 5 active sessions going nonstop? That seems like a pretty important qualifier.
Others have said similar but I disagree, I'm spending $200/m and I can easily burn through my weekly quota with a few overnight goals using 5.6 medium.
Same here with Claude Opus on 20x Max plan. Easy to burn through with 3-5 parallel sessions, each with their own subs going.
Then, once I go over, API pricing racks up FAST!
I burned through $100 of credits in literally 40 minutes doing the same long running task I always do.
And what do you do with all that?
I've reverse engineered multiple classic games and turned them into popular, browser-based MMO-like experiences.
I'm also creating a free platform that replaces extremely out-of-date software, some of it only available with mutli-million dollar contracts, to help medical physics professionals with cutting-edge radiotherapy devices used to treat cancer.
https://brynnbateman.com/ for a list of projects
Nice! I tried to play https://eternalsagas.com/play but it stalls at 45% loading with the progress bar always at 0 but the music playing.
And out of curiosity, how do you automate testing the porting in the browser that's actually playable etc? And aren't you a bit scared of hosting and serving the "hairy bits" such as full assets? Nice job anyway!
Time to make creative software for linux that can replace adobe for Video/photo editing :P
An MMO of Full Throttle would be amazing!
It'd be interesting to see what someone could do to turn a 90s era adventure game into an MMO! I never played the game myself but I think basically any game dev project that modernizes stuff is really neat.
5.6 medium is pretty good at implementing moderately complicated things as long as you've done a good job specking out the types and the API contracts and acceptance criteria.
I can pretty easily burn through my weekly quota over several agent coding hours with minimal supervision when tasked with some pretty large but well-planned refactors.
not at all true. if you're truly using it across the board for smaller things (translation of pages, filtering of every individual tweet based on its relevance to you etc), the costs ramp up super quickly.
i used for work where i did less and it quickly reaches thousands if you're not careful. i can already see what some will say: skill issue et cetera - whatever.
$100-200/mo is the subscription price. You aren’t going to go over. And you can select smaller models as well. Not everything has to be done by the most expensive one.
You just get throttled, which interrupts your whole workflow.
I thought it went without saying that GPT 5.6 Sol is the wrong model to use for things like filtering tweets. Apparently not?
You would think that no one would be stupid enough to use Fable or Sol for small one-off tasks like filtering tweets, but AI has opened up a lot of avenues for stupid people to ship code. It's only going to get worse.
If you factor in cost then it may well be, but it's definitely the case that the high-end models can get you significantly better results than the cheaper models even for tasks that feel like they should be straightforward.
5 USD is at the "raw" API price.
OpenCode currently offers 60 USD API credits at 10 USD per month (OpenCode Go) and have even doubled it temporarily as a promotion.
Effectively you can get Deepseek for 1/12th the already ridiculous cheap API price.
From here, it looks like opencode is hemorrhaging money. I've got a Opencode Zen free account, and I've been using deepseek-v4-flash-free on Pi for a bit, and I haven't hit a limit yet. Sometimes my request fails, but retrys work. I know this is a very cheap model, but it's being given out for free. I assume they might be training on outputs?
Those are not at the same price. Opecode’s 60 USD of deepseek usage is charged at much higher rates than what deepseek themselves charge at.
I really doubt that the either of the pro plans are subsidized heavily enough to support you swapping v4Flash for Terra, much less Sol.
$5/days is ~330 Mtok/day, that’s a nontrivial amount of work, and none of the gpts are more efficient than deepseek at $/task if deepseek meets your quality bar.
They do give a significant amount more than you would expect from the API pricing. The US provider API pricing has heavy margins by all accounts (and most are short enough of GPUs that there's little incentive to drop).
The cost per token is super low. If you're used to paying OpenAI or Anthropic API-based fees then the same workload on DeepSeek feels free.
Ignoring the other side of the equation is a pretty wild thing for you to do here:
> I'm running it in Oh My Pi with a second instance running as "advisor" and even with 5-6 active sessions (effectively 12 streams)
> In the $150/mo range you can get effectively unlimited usage of GPT 5.6 Sol (Pro plan)
Not true. Sol on XHigh or Max runs out even on the $200/mo plan. It's not close to effectively unlimited. Maybe at 2x the current allowance it can.
$5 a day is pretty extreme in DeepSeek. You really have to abuse it to get anywhere close to it. Maybe something in around hundreds of millions of tokens per day, considering cache hits and all.
And to be frank, it is not that much weaker for regular software development work. I use Claude at work and I see no difference in capability. I only notice a dramatic difference in how much more expensive it is.