Yeah, the dishwasher takes much longer to do the dishes than I do by hand, but that's cool. That said, the dishwasher is out of the way.

I don't think we'll get household robots anytime soon. Hell, the only ones that can afford them will be the same that would hire human household help.

> Hell, the only ones that can afford them will be the same that would hire human household help.

But maybe they'd rather deal with a robot than a human?

Honestly: why?

I don't want a person I don't know very well in my space.

That aside: if I'm lucky enough to find a person who's good and reliable, they might move away, switch jobs etc.

It has all the headaches that come with hiring and managing someone, because, well, it is exactly that... If I don't want to be a manager at work (been there done that, happy to let others do it and get the raise that comes along with it), I sure as heck don't want to do it at home.

Usually you hire a cleaning company who sends a person they've hired and vetted to clean, you don't have to deal with all of that stuff.

Then I have to deal with whichever random person they decide to send. I can't be the only one who finds this annoying (even if I'm not in the majority).

You'd need to manage the robot, too, I would think. In my experience, I rather manage people than machines.

Sure, but others have the opposite preference. Machines tend to be more predictable.

I think machines are just unpredictable in different ways (for example, changes from software updates).

I prefer machines

> I don't want a person I don't know very well in my space.

In the humanoid robot scenario, you'll get a surveillance device with a built-in microphone and camera beaming every intimate detail of your space to the highest bidder. Instead of getting one person you don't know very well in your space, you'll get thousands.

Robots don‘t steal and don‘t want a raise.

If there is a subscription in there somewhere, prices could change.

It's ok, we get it you don't want one. I would happily pay $20k-$30k for one if it worked well. I know a lot of people who would.

I might even get one as I like trying new tech if and when, but I have no issue with hiring humans either and humans so far "fail" very differently from machines (as in a lot of software). I find the latter far less predictable and controllable.

They'll just spy on you along with the smart tv, phone and flock camera at the street corner.

The list of plausible answers is long enough as to question why you felt the need to include the word honestly, irony? One example: social anxiety.

Not irony: why manage machines with all the issues that go with that instead of people?

Tell me you are not an introvert without telling me...

I don't want a person I barely know regularly going all over my apartment. What if they discover... nevermind.

A robot, on the other hand? Hell yeah!

you don't need to be an introvert to find that line of reasoning short sighted. I'm plenty extroverted and I still don't want to deal with people coming to my house to clean it. It's very invasive and they rarely do a good job. A robot that I can "train" to do exactly what I need and constantly works in the background would be a HUGE value add to my lifestyle.

The difference might be that I don't believe in these "machine gods of cleaning" being the thing to arrive (looking at current consumer goods) and then the boundary for what to choose shifts a lot if one is willing to deal with humans. The latter also doesn't need to be so foreign, e.g., could be someone already working for a friend.

"hey Rosie, the cat yakked on the rug again"

(real-time mess handling)

Humans have emotions. Best avoided.

It's been said that people who do not have a high EQ gravitate towards tech, because machines are easier to understand than people.

It's been said that people that say this are transparently trying to manipulate other people, which is why the others prefer to cut off all potential for tedious negotiations.

This is the same reason people prefer buying Tesla cars direct instead of having to make a deal at a dealership. If they all had high EQ maybe they'd prefer the dealership model after all.

I feel like people who have high EQ should actually grasp the infinite depth and complexity of even the median human.

Just imagine, there’s a woman Alice who cleans your home once a month. On this particular day, she had a fight with her husband this morning on (something completely unrelated to you).

Do you expect her to check her emotions at the door when she enters your space? Or is she going to give really bad vibes while she is moving around your house?

Less liability?

You think robots can't malfunction or be hacked to do some nefarious things in the household?

With a robot housemaid, I wouldn't have to get dressed. :-P

More seriously:

- I wouldn't feel obligated to 'pre-clean' anything. Who wants to come across as a thoughtless/careless slob whose personal habits amount to borderline-abusive demands on the cleaning staff? Not me... and where does that line get drawn, anyway?

- I wouldn't worry about stuff being picked up and misplaced

- I have never had problems with maids stealing stuff, but I know others have

- Cleaning can be initiated or postponed as needed, with no dependencies on someone else's schedule

The last point I can get behind as it is a clear advantage, the other ones might need some more superhuman abilities that I'd not accept as given until demonstrated in extenso.

> With a robot housemaid, I wouldn't have to get dressed. :-P

Well, as long as you don't mind the workers in the robot company's telemetrics department whacking it to your robot's video feed.

They can jerk themselves silly, IDGAF. When the 'Black Mirror' screenwriters get involved, though, I'll require some back-end participation of the financial kind.

(I'm being facetious here: nothing that transmits data out of the house is going to be deployed to run household robots, at least not in my house. Even if I didn't care, I can't make that call on behalf of family members or guests. Then there's the obvious concern that the robotics company would sell the data to my homeowners' insurance company, health insurance company, and who knows who else.)

For the robot to function without teleoperation, sota is for it to be using a model that runs on chips about 5-10x the cost of what is being discussed here. How do you propose for that without transmission of data out of your house ?

I've pretty much made my peace with the idea of spending on GPUs what I used to spend on sports cars.

That being said, by the time the kinematic hardware needed to build a robotic housekeeper is available for home use, I don't think the brainpower is going to be a problem. There's nothing in Ex Machina that couldn't run on a couple of RTX 6000s.

The dishwasher is out of the way because you made space for it out of the way. We'll probably adapt our spaces for robots too eventually.

For example, you could store far more things out of easy human reach.