As far as I can tell, these ads still look like ads, clearly marked as sponsored?

> As far as I can tell…

This is precisely the problem with the entire notion of putting advertising into these models. You’ll never really know.

Yeah, that would be a problem. Luckily, the actual post we're discussing isn't putting any advertising in the model.

This is a very important distinction to make -- complaints should be be about what is happening, and should distinguish that from what is not yet happening and should not. Because beyond the maxim that we should try to deal in facts... if OpenAI thinks people can't tell the difference anyways, they'll be justified in thinking they may as well just do the thing they're already being accused of doing.

> complaints should be be about what is happening

Why would you think that? An ad supported product has misaligned incentives, everyone can see that and that's why the confidence erodes from that moment on.

You're living in the era in which saying "Stallman was right" is a dead cold take. Every big tech company sold out exactly like the hippies told you they would back when Google was a dream place to work for and Meta was still a twinkle in zuk's eyes.

God forbid we anticipate what could possibly go wrong in an attempt to get ahead of the problem.

But I guess waiting for problems to show their ugly heads before acting has never backfired.

Look at how ads in Google SERP were before 2014 (and they already crossed "we won't put ads" line a few years before)

https://www.bmon.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/deep-hole-...

Now, well, if you do the same exact search, at least in my location (and with UBlock disabled) it's frankly a mess but must admit that sponsored links are not even the first thing you see. There is the AI result, then the Wikipedia result, then some random result, then the sponsored block with a flat headline separating it and then the organic results, I presume.

Frog boiling