I work out but I've never taken it. I feel like not everything has to be minmaxed, sometimes some things are better left to nature. Easy come easy go as they say
That's a big odd - because creatine seems to be the universally beloved thing and that it's a bit natural and has positive effects with zero negative side effect. Not a criticism but aside fro proten, creatine seems to be 'the natural thing'. Pun intended.
1. That's because it's true. Creatine is extremely well studied and the studies pretty much all tell you that Creatine is safe, it's great at what we know it's great for, and it turns out it might be good for things we didn't expect. So when people all say "wow it's so amazing" they're right.
2. Because of (1) being so blatantly true, if you want to push some other supplement, it adds a lot of legitimacy to say "Creatine is the number one supplement, but here's something that takes things to the next level". Since the Creatine claim is well supported and you're already marketing to a group that's taking a supplement (Creatine), it is likely good marketing to piggyback on that.
But this doesn't change the fact that Creatine is shockingly well supported as a supplement.
Also a lot of peoples diets have a high amount already. And certain things like energy drinks have a lot if you drink a those.
I think a lot of the minmaxed stuff people do working out is mostly placebo because very few people are actually pushing the limits of natural human physiology and hitting some nutrient bottleneck.
You're probably not getting much Creatine from your diet, definitely not supplement levels. I don't think energy drinks have it, maybe pre-workouts. Creatine doesn't dissolve well afaik so it's rare in energy drinks.
1) It annoys me whenever anybody mentions literally anything (whatever baking soda, potassium, any vitamin) you get a million unhinged comments about how this was a personal panacea.
2) Creatine definitely does stuff, that's scientifically been established by numerous studies for decades. It's been recommended as a supplement for vegetarians for mental reasons and for people trying to build muscle-mass (sort of niche). I'm actually a bit surprised how few people talk about it when it's a standard blood test thing (possibly because it can't be patented).
3) It's dirt cheap and made by tons of difference places. I don't think there's a "big creatine." It's probably like < 25 cents a serving.
I don't know who would be paying, but there are many comments here that are semantically indistinguishable from paid shill comments. I don't have a great explanation for it other than people tend to attribute way too much power to whatever random supplements they're on about (you'll see it in vitamin D or B12 threads too, and especially nootropics (which includes creatine) discussions).
Creatine is $10 at Walmart, I don't think they are paying for astroturfing. It's a chemical like salt.
I work out but I've never taken it. I feel like not everything has to be minmaxed, sometimes some things are better left to nature. Easy come easy go as they say
That's a big odd - because creatine seems to be the universally beloved thing and that it's a bit natural and has positive effects with zero negative side effect. Not a criticism but aside fro proten, creatine seems to be 'the natural thing'. Pun intended.
There's two sides to this.
1. That's because it's true. Creatine is extremely well studied and the studies pretty much all tell you that Creatine is safe, it's great at what we know it's great for, and it turns out it might be good for things we didn't expect. So when people all say "wow it's so amazing" they're right.
2. Because of (1) being so blatantly true, if you want to push some other supplement, it adds a lot of legitimacy to say "Creatine is the number one supplement, but here's something that takes things to the next level". Since the Creatine claim is well supported and you're already marketing to a group that's taking a supplement (Creatine), it is likely good marketing to piggyback on that.
But this doesn't change the fact that Creatine is shockingly well supported as a supplement.
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If you dont eat meat nature will not help you here. It will change your life if you're vegan.
Also a lot of peoples diets have a high amount already. And certain things like energy drinks have a lot if you drink a those.
I think a lot of the minmaxed stuff people do working out is mostly placebo because very few people are actually pushing the limits of natural human physiology and hitting some nutrient bottleneck.
You're probably not getting much Creatine from your diet, definitely not supplement levels. I don't think energy drinks have it, maybe pre-workouts. Creatine doesn't dissolve well afaik so it's rare in energy drinks.
That's definitely the good attitude to have for that type of things
A few thoughts
1) It annoys me whenever anybody mentions literally anything (whatever baking soda, potassium, any vitamin) you get a million unhinged comments about how this was a personal panacea.
2) Creatine definitely does stuff, that's scientifically been established by numerous studies for decades. It's been recommended as a supplement for vegetarians for mental reasons and for people trying to build muscle-mass (sort of niche). I'm actually a bit surprised how few people talk about it when it's a standard blood test thing (possibly because it can't be patented).
3) It's dirt cheap and made by tons of difference places. I don't think there's a "big creatine." It's probably like < 25 cents a serving.
Even quite a bit cheaper than that, I buy 1000g of creatine for $30 USD, which is 15 cents per 5g serving. I think it's a no-brainer for most people.
Creatine is very uncontroversial and the scientific consensus is that it's an all around good thing, so I wouldn't be surprised
That strikes me as a really poorly calibrated expectation. Who benefits? Who's paying? How could I get this job?
I don't know who would be paying, but there are many comments here that are semantically indistinguishable from paid shill comments. I don't have a great explanation for it other than people tend to attribute way too much power to whatever random supplements they're on about (you'll see it in vitamin D or B12 threads too, and especially nootropics (which includes creatine) discussions).
There isn't much money to make from creatine recommendation, it's a well known nutritional supplement that can be found for pretty cheap. You can read more about it here if you want: https://www.researchgate.net/publication/317612254_Internati...
You tend to see that more for the more high margin and branded supplements.
The profit margins on creatine are not high.
Do you?? Show me an HN thread where half the comments are paid for
How can you accurately detect what is and isn't a not?
You seem very confident you can tell the difference so I thought I'd ask first.