I calculated only last weekend that my team would cost, if we would run Claude Code on retail API costs, around $200k/mo. We pay $1400/month in Max subscriptions. So that's $50k/user... But what tokens CC is reporting in their json -> a lot of this must be cached etc, so doubt it's anywhere near $50k cost, but not sure how to figure out what it would cost and I'm sure as hell not going to try.
yeah the json token counts are super misleading. i run a bunch of claude agents for automation and like 85% of input tokens end up being cached reads -which cost 1/10th of the sticker price. so your $200k number is probably closer to $25-30k in real cost, and thats before you factor in that anthropics own infra is way cheaper than retail API pricing. the $5k forbes number was always nonsense but even the "corrected" estimates in TFA are probably still too high IMO
I'm fascinated to know the kind of work that allows you to intelligently allocate so much resources. I use Claude extensively and feel that I great value out of it but I reach a limit in terms of what I can do that makes sense relatively quickly it seems.
Yea basically we have an app that’s like Netflix but for dogs, so people can leave on dog oriented shows for their dogs when they get kombucha or coffee
Omg, I can't believe that's real
I wanted to believe that you're essentially trolling, but no - that service exist. And not an upstart, there is coverage going back several years.
Our societies are seriously fucked.
On the contrary, this gives me hope it's possible to create value for people even when you compete with hundreds of free Youtube playlists. This is good!
They are, but the dogs got it pretty good now. Good shows for good boys.
You see, in any sane world the input box that can answer almost any question in the world should be more profitable than Netflix-for-dogs. But I bet it's not.
Never have I read something that screamed Bay Area more than this lmao.
This product wouldnt be needed if they had a Juicero to dispense refreshing fresh squeezed juice anytime.
Same for me, but I suppose it is letting agents more loose and less checking of the code and rather throw away lots of generated output.
Gemini CLI shows how much was saved through caching each session, and it's usually somewhere around 90%
You can use `npx ccusage` to check your local logs and see how much it would have cost through the API.
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I'm surprised, isn't it forbidden to use the Max plan as part of a company? Just curious, as I thought it was forbidden by the ToS but I'm not sure if I have a good understanding of it
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Claude Code has a Teams plan which includes Max tiers. Why would it be forbidden?
There is nothing in the TOS last time I checked forbidding it's use with Claude code. It's only forbidden to utilize it in the running of the business.
So getting Claude code subscriptions for developers should be permissable and not be against anything... However, if you created a rest endpoint to eg run a preconfigured prompt as part of your platform, that'd be against it
But I'm neither a lawyer nor work for anthropic
Ah, that makes sense. I hope they mean that then. We are just devs using it to write code; not selling it on.
Surely that can't be true? The expectation would be that people pay $200 a month for building open source and personal hobby software with Claude?
Yeah, that would end that really quickly. I use Pro for personal stuff. If $200 is not allowed for companies I don't think anyone would use it, at all.
If they believe a sufficient number is locked in then they may consider doing this later.
Most companies forbid it though, since you're not covered by any legal protection - for example, Anthropic can use your data or code to train new models and more.
This maybe was the case year+ ago but this is no longer the case, used to be most; now it is some/few
If that were true, then everyone I know is violating that tos
> but not sure how to figure out what it would cost and I'm sure as hell not going to try.
Ask Opus to figure out how much it would cost. Lol.