I'd argue it's not meaningless because the point wasn't to show inclusion but power. Nobody went for master's degrees, "master" as a rank in video games, or anything else.
Reminds me of [1]twitch.tv trying to remove "blind playthrough" as a tag to encourage inclusive language.
So what? Your proposal is to change nothing, continue as is, and subtly continue using terms like "blacklist" as something bad and "whitelist" as something good... I don't think I understand your point. I don't see any real sense in it.
Unfortunately, MANY people still think this is nonsense and shouldn't be given attention. What you don't understand is that you subtly say that things from Black people are bad and things from white people are good. Do you know what that causes in the end?
A company "of Black people" applies for YC and has a higher chance of being rejected than a company of/for white people, even if it's a necessary solution. You doubt it? Try it!
No, I'm not proposing to change nothing, continue as is, nor do I use coded language to express my secret inner racism.
I'm saying that changing words like "blacklist" or "master" is purely performative and actually quite selfish. People do it to feel good about themselves for "helping" without actually having to do anything helpful. It's the moral equivalent of sending "thoughts and prayers".
I do use "blocklist" on new project and name my main "trunk" and not "master" but I'll both a) defend other's rights to use terms like blocklists and master and b) call out the virtue signalling ones who are trying to push a political agenda by trying to control thoughts (by attempting to control speech).
There's no political interest here. (Although I believe EVERYTHING is political, including not taking a stand!)
The only point I'm making is that (as a Black person) I have the authority to tell you that it's important and how I feel. You can defend whatever you want, I'm just communicating and SUGGESTING that you change the term.
What I find funny is that many here argue that we can't even SUGGEST. And they still say they're in favor of democracy. Oh, okay!
Because changing blacklist to blocklist, master to main, etc. is a meaningless act of virtue signalling.
I'd argue it's not meaningless because the point wasn't to show inclusion but power. Nobody went for master's degrees, "master" as a rank in video games, or anything else.
Reminds me of [1]twitch.tv trying to remove "blind playthrough" as a tag to encourage inclusive language.
1. https://www.reddit.com/r/Twitch/comments/k7dvgw/twitch_remov...
GitHub changed the default branch name from master to main.
So what? Your proposal is to change nothing, continue as is, and subtly continue using terms like "blacklist" as something bad and "whitelist" as something good... I don't think I understand your point. I don't see any real sense in it.
Unfortunately, MANY people still think this is nonsense and shouldn't be given attention. What you don't understand is that you subtly say that things from Black people are bad and things from white people are good. Do you know what that causes in the end?
A company "of Black people" applies for YC and has a higher chance of being rejected than a company of/for white people, even if it's a necessary solution. You doubt it? Try it!
No, I'm not proposing to change nothing, continue as is, nor do I use coded language to express my secret inner racism.
I'm saying that changing words like "blacklist" or "master" is purely performative and actually quite selfish. People do it to feel good about themselves for "helping" without actually having to do anything helpful. It's the moral equivalent of sending "thoughts and prayers".
I do use "blocklist" on new project and name my main "trunk" and not "master" but I'll both a) defend other's rights to use terms like blocklists and master and b) call out the virtue signalling ones who are trying to push a political agenda by trying to control thoughts (by attempting to control speech).
There's no political interest here. (Although I believe EVERYTHING is political, including not taking a stand!)
The only point I'm making is that (as a Black person) I have the authority to tell you that it's important and how I feel. You can defend whatever you want, I'm just communicating and SUGGESTING that you change the term.
What I find funny is that many here argue that we can't even SUGGEST. And they still say they're in favor of democracy. Oh, okay!