Yes it is sad that the whole Nobel prize coverage will be just a background to a week talking about Trump, whether he wins or not :(
Yes it is sad that the whole Nobel prize coverage will be just a background to a week talking about Trump, whether he wins or not :(
He won't win. How could the committee look at him, while he is actively celebrating killing people off the coast of Venezuela (whether they are smuggling drugs or not) and give him the Peace Prize.
Obama authorized 54 strikes in Pakistan in his first year, resulting in estimated 100 civilians dead. He received Nobel peace prize that year.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drone_strikes_in_Pakistan
I guess it depends on whether or not the committee members plan on visiting the US anytime soon.
Trump isn't good enough at blackmail. Netanyahu, on the other hand...
I don't think anyone seriously believes he will win. Despite making up all kind of wars and conflicts he claims to have solved, there hasn't been any real peace coming from him, yet. Maybe Gaza turns out to something real, but it's not done yet, and I kinda doubt they decide on these prices on a short whim. And if development in the USA continues like at the moment, I doubt he will be considered next year. It will be just one conflict cancelling out one peace.
but what if he turns into the ultimate humanitarian after he wins one? Has the nobel committee considered that?/s
Yeah its weird how he explicitly states he wants a peace prize and then turns around and does very hellish things, rips up Aid programs, impose one sided tariffs without caring about your allies, belittle a president desperately trying to fight for his countries sovereignty, mafia style negotiations for said country minerals without a security guarantee in order to send weapons, trash nato allies repeatedly, taunt allies that you wont honor security guarantees if they dont do x , remove historical names for no good reason from various government objects , alienate out entire class of people with your rhetoric while using a platform thats supposed to be bipartisan, deport & arrest people while bypassing judges as much as you can
> rips up Aid programs
This is a misleading miscapitalisation. USAID isn't about aid. It's about "international development" - i.e. soft power in ideologically contested nations.
>but what if he turns into the ultimate humanitarian after he wins one? Has the nobel committee considered that?/s
Ugh giving me flashbacks to the “the office will change him” arguments. Can’t believe people actually said that out loud.
If he somehow got the peace prize as he balloons a department sneaking around in plain clothes with their faces covered rounding people up at work and terrifying/ripping families apart then the prize is truly a joke. Luckily there’s no way he’s getting it.
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Oh well, the comments will also be filled with complaints about Kissinger, Obama, Teresa, Arafat... and how the prize therefore somehow is worthless. 2020 thread has 30 comments mentioning Trump, 20 comments mentioning Obama.. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24728142
Instead of celebrating the winners, some people just want to complain.
Both are valid topics.
Sure, but is it worth discussing again and again and again? To me it's like beating a dead horse. Every year, the same discussion here. Drowns the more interesting discussion about the actual winners.
I get your point.
It is possible, however, that it's different people each year having roughly the same conversation.
But this is true of many topics.
Talking about Trump is also like beating a dead horse to some people. Doesn't really matter. People are allowed to talk about stuff.
Dead horses don’t generally beat themselves, after all; hobby horses doubly so.
> Instead of celebrating the winners
Well.. assuming the winner isn't a war criminal we can celebrate at least :P