>Personally, I am quite glad we don't allow Nazi propaganda to spread as easily as the Americans.
Yes, let's give up our freedoms and live in a censored police state to prevent us from becoming Nazis again, that will surely end well. There were even books and movies about these dystopias and THIS is your solution? You can't make this up.
>We've learned our lesson from history
Your nation lived under Nazism 80 years ago, which you always use as an argument for why you're right, but it seems you learned nothing from your history, or learned the wrong lessons if you think government censorship is the way to go when that's exactly what helped get Nazis into power in the first palce. I can't facepalm hard enough at this.
For someone invoking the Nazi argument every other of your comments on HN, you sure are short sighted and lack critical thought and self reflection of what you're saying.
Please bring some arguments that can be backed by facts or studies that can be peer reviewed and examined by critical thinking, not by emotional appeals to "Nazis are bad m'kay".
Let's look at the results: For all its faults, the US's boundaryless freedom of speech assured by its constitution made it the longest running democracy to date, meanwhile your country has been juggling between monarchies, dictators and government policed nanny states all its existence, but has the audacity to think it knows what true freedom of speech is like when it never had it to begin with.
You can make it up and you did.
It's easy to misrepresent an argument so you have a nice straw man to get mad about.
I would invite you to attempt some more intellectual honesty - it would make for better discussion.
Tell me what did I make up? Try forming an argument instead of throwing accusations around.
> Please bring some arguments that can be backed by facts or studies that can be peer reviewed and examined by critical thinking, not by emotional appeals to "Nazis are bad m'kay".
You mean, like, the vast body of literature, the many museums, the crates of pictures and photos, the miles of movie rolls documenting and discussing Nazi atrocities, ideology, philosophy, science, policies and system of governance?
> Let's look at the results: For all its faults, the US's boundaryless freedom of speech assured by its constitution made it the longest running democracy to date, meanwhile your country has been juggling between monarchies, dictators and government policed nanny states all its existence, but has the audacity to think it knows what true freedom of speech is like when it never had it to begin with.
That's just alluding to American Exceptionalism. Germany did that, too, a lot actually. "Deutscher Sonderweg" was the key phrase. Anyhow, Nazi Germany is 80 years ago now and quite well researched, Socialist East Germany is 36 years ago now and also quite well researched, and all Germany has to show for it is the idea that if you like your liberty and justice for all you have to draw a line when somebody says "no, not for you, only for us."
Granted, it is not much, but it is something. If you look at it empirically, Germany has falsified a few approaches, while the USA is running on a hypothesis resembling the Weimar Republic in many ways, but certainly not all. EUropean's can't help it if they remember that shit better than USians, they were closer by for the last century or so.
>You mean, like, the vast body of literature, the many museums, the crates of pictures and photos, the miles of movie rolls documenting and discussing Nazi atrocities, ideology, philosophy, science, policies and system of governance?
Bad faith argument. I never said Nazis aren't bad, I just said that he is using the "Nazis are bad" phrase everywhere on HN as a universal joker card only for the purpose of emotional manipulation to derail the conversation into their side of the field where they can paint contrarians as Nazi supporters, instead of bringing valid on-topic arguments to disprove or prove the topic we were on.
And you can see this trick works because you came out of the woodworks kicking and screaming about proving me how Nazis are bad, when nobody was trying to debate that fact.
The longest run up until now... But you shouldnt be so sure that it is still a democracy and you shouldnt be so sure that the fact it was kept a democracy for so long was because of free speech absolutisme. I for one, think that the US of A has lost a lot of its narrative in the last 20 years. I think its the narrative that kept it a democracy until now.
Not the longest. The longest is San Marino - since 1600.
What's with the Vatican?
Not a democracy, an elected absolute monarchy. More akin to the prince-electors of the HRE.