Note that these all of these Xenon-Everest stories come back to the same person: Lukas Furtenbach

Why? Because he’s launching a business that sells Xenon-assisted Everest tours: https://www.furtenbachadventures.com/

These stories are never about uncovering an underground world of Xenon performance enhancement or discussing the science (which is much less optimistic about Xenon’s benefits). They’re always lazily relaying the PR information that Lukas Furtenbach gives them.

So while it’s true that Xenon appears to have some possible performance enhancing properties, all of these news pieces about how climbers are using Xenon always come back to this one same guy who is, coincidentally, trying really hard to sell people on expensive Xenon-assisted Everest tours.

That’s some really solid PR work on his part if true, but if he is scaling (pun intended) tours that actually do manage to summit Everest in significantly decreased time, I would say that it’s strong evidence that Xenon actually works and the science just hasn’t caught up to it yet. Unless he has found some other clever way that he is for some reason pretending is Xenon.

> Unless he has found some other clever way that he is for some reason pretending is Xenon.

Meth. It's meth.

In the 1991 film K2, Michael Biehn's character used an epinephrine (adrenaline) auto-injector (in his neck), which had recently been marketed and was seen by some wealthy as a booster. This actually increases risk for arrhythmia and makes pulmonary edema worse, so ironically meth would be a preferred booster.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/K2_(film)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Epinephrine_autoinjector

https://www.outsideonline.com/health/training-performance/co...

> I would say that it’s strong evidence that Xenon actually works

The only evidence is the claims from the person selling the expensive five-figure Everest packages. It’s the very definition of a conflict of interest.

They also use multiple treatments, not just Xenon. The hikers sleep in hypobaric chambers. Another comment said they used supplemental oxygen but were hiding details about how much.

There is no evidence or even head-to-head testing here. It’s all claims that come from one person, who is also trying to sell the treatment.

But are people repeatedly getting up the mountain in much less time? If so, it really doesn’t matter if it’s because of one particular substance or another, and if not, it would be pretty easy to determine it is fake, right?

If something normally takes two weeks and some guy claims his novel method gets you up there in one, it’s at least easy to verify whether his novel method actually does do it.

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He is primarily selling the Placebo Effect.

All kinds of fancy "research" and "reasons" it will work, and the marks\\\\customers put in a financial and emotional investment in it working, so expect it to work.

Seems just about how placebos work best

This is more of a Dumbo’s feather than a placebo effect, but in either case, it’s hard to imagine he is getting people up the mountain in significantly the last time with it.

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