What will you do about ghost jobs? For example I see Microsoft has a bunch of generic software engineer roles listed, despite them just doing huge layoffs. If they were actually hiring they could have easily shifted existing workers into those. These aren't highly specialized roles.
Lots of companies continue to hire even as they cut jobs. I would even say it is normal. Ghost jobs do also exist.
> Ghost jobs do also exist.
I don’t know about that. A lot of times companies will already have someone they want but they have to post a job listing for X days before they can fulfill it.
Full time hire process can take a long time and is why contract to hire can get you in the door faster.
What you are describing is a ghost job though, right? At least from the perspective of all the applicants but one.
Oops. I guess I agree with binary132 then. I misread that and apparently added a "not" in there in my head.
This is still a ghost job. A ghost job are jobs advertised that are not intended to be filled. If they are leaving ads up for jobs that are already filled it is a ghost job.
Oops. I guess I agree with binary132 then. I misread that and apparently added a "not" in there in my head.
> If they were actually hiring they could have easily shifted existing workers into those.
I wouldn't assume that it's appropriate to shift people in a layoff to new roles within a company. I remember, when working at Intel, that some people were given opportunity (and preference) to apply to internal roles before being asked to leave.
That being said, not everyone is a good fit to transition to open roles. Other times, a certain amount of headcount turnover is healthy. (I personally felt like a lot of Intel's woes were due to the organization being too insular; and a certain amount of turnover would have helped them.)
This is a great question! I think it is something that the platform can potentially address in the future via community inputs, e.g. people can report they have submitted to this position but never heard back within a week/few weeks. The more a position gets reported, the more indication that it is a ghost job. I am open for ideas here.
Sometimes, companies shift engineers whenever they can before layoffs, and sometimes, they let go folks to rehire or hire back folks that were laid off if rehire proves difficult. I am not sure why companies do this but have seem it happens.
"Huge" may be an overstatement. They laid off 6,000 people which is obviously a lot of individuals losing their jobs but only represents 3% of the company. In today's market a 3% layoff is comparatively small.
I've never heard of a company doing a layoff in the way you describe, eliminating thousands of roles and immediately moving those people into open roles throughout the company. It assumes the employees are fungible and will be a good fit for any open position and would lead to everyone knowing the layoff is coming well before its announced.