When famine hits or you get attacked by another country, it’s not about weak being protected from the strong. It’s about one society getting into trouble.

And perhaps this is the core of our disagreement - you see a country being attacked by another and you blame those hard times on the victim while I blame it on the attacker.

I say it's a problem of unrestrained strength, of strength misapplied, not a problem of some people being weaker than others.

And an enormous number of famines are caused by conflict, or historically by dumb central government by overly strong tyrants.

> famines are caused by conflict

And conflicts are frequently caused by the victim getting weak.

> historically by dumb central government

That's what I pointing at.

> overly strong tyrants

They're not strong. Unless you want to define strong in a very narrow sense which simply dumb.

> you see a country being attacked by another and you blame those hard times on the victim while I blame it on the attacker

Such is nature. When a sugar lover gets diabetis, you don't blame diabetis. If a society wants to stay afloat, it has to be able to defend from outsiders.