The guy literally tweets and retweets neo-nazis and white nationalist content on a regular basis. He celebrates an election win with a literal nazi salute. He openly supports fascist parties and politicians. Being aghast at someone calling him a nazi is ridiculous.
If someone’s “different ideas” involve literally praising hitler then it is logical to call them a nazi. The only way someone believe what you said is if they have not listened to a word Elon has uttered for the last 8 years.
I was one of the people who believed it was "just an awkward gesture". Egg on my face when a few days later he went and spoke at the far right German parties conference
You should have seen his Twitter feed. Just fuming, virulent white supremacy 24/7. (Of course, he wiped a lot of it after the election. Fucking coward.)
"A federal court today ruled that the Trump-Vance administration unlawfully compelled civil servants at the U.S. Department of Education to transmit partisan political messaging from their government email accounts during the ongoing federal shutdown — violating core First Amendment protections."
> Rabid, senseless, confusing opposition to gun rights, a civil right in the U.S.
As is their First Amendment right. Do you oppose that civil right?
> Totally opposing widespread, bipartisan support for voter ID
I can understand having strong feelings, but the question was about the Democrats so my answer was about the Democrats. The "what about"s aren't compelling.
- Jan 6 was bad. People who were charged, put on trial, and convicted for being part of that very, very clearly did not get a fair trial. Some went to prison for years for ... walking in to a building, looking around a bit, taking some pictures, and walking out. This does not come close to comparing to the scale of destruction visited on American cities by the Floyd riots. Almost none of those people were punished. We're talking a 100x difference, maybe more. Don't forget the "oh jk jk gathering is fine if it's for political purposes we approve of" move by the dems during covid too.
- This is a really specific case! Seems like they shouldn't have done that. It does not compare to, "We're going to create this category of speech we'll call "hate speech", and make that illegal for everyone. Also, we'll force everyone to say stuff they don't want to say". That specific case hinges on what the Dept. of Ed's remit is. It's totally cool to ask your gov't employees to send emails promoting things they don't agree with, it's not cool to ask them to do it if it's too partisan.
- I don't understand the 1A comment about 2A rights. I support 1A rights?
Another propagandized fool who thinks they see the world for what it is and the rest of us don't. The real nazis did show up. They are wearing the same red hat you have in your closet.
You mean like creating an autonomous paramilitary force that operates masked agents across multiple state lines kidnapping people without due process or any regard to the constitution?
And in this iteration, they murdered, intentionally and proudly abused, treated whole cities as occupied territories, lied to courts, beated citizens (and murdered them) ....
... while republican party and administration openly supported it.
Not really relevant to this conversation.
completely relevant.
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The guy literally tweets and retweets neo-nazis and white nationalist content on a regular basis. He celebrates an election win with a literal nazi salute. He openly supports fascist parties and politicians. Being aghast at someone calling him a nazi is ridiculous.
His brain is damaged from all the ketamine use
Do we let drunk drivers off the hook after killing a bunch of people due to their reckless behavior?
Yes, sometimes.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zvgZtdmyKlI
If someone’s “different ideas” involve literally praising hitler then it is logical to call them a nazi. The only way someone believe what you said is if they have not listened to a word Elon has uttered for the last 8 years.
He did a Nazi salute on national TV!? Three times!
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I was one of the people who believed it was "just an awkward gesture". Egg on my face when a few days later he went and spoke at the far right German parties conference
You should have seen his Twitter feed. Just fuming, virulent white supremacy 24/7. (Of course, he wiped a lot of it after the election. Fucking coward.)
The AfD is not a Nazi party either. Jesus. People are completely unhinged.
Yes they are and even openly so.
In what way is the Democratic party more authoritarian?
Republicans are the ones that insist on protecting police no matter how much they trample on people's rights.
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> Deciding not to prosecute crimes they agree with / which are commonly committed by their base.
Like the Jan 6 pardons and Trump's immunity?
> Speech controls (they wanted compelled speech...)
https://democracyforward.org/news/press-releases/ooo-win-law...
"A federal court today ruled that the Trump-Vance administration unlawfully compelled civil servants at the U.S. Department of Education to transmit partisan political messaging from their government email accounts during the ongoing federal shutdown — violating core First Amendment protections."
> Rabid, senseless, confusing opposition to gun rights, a civil right in the U.S.
As is their First Amendment right. Do you oppose that civil right?
> Totally opposing widespread, bipartisan support for voter ID
Why not? When put to the people for a vote, it fails. https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/6178993-california-pro...
I can understand having strong feelings, but the question was about the Democrats so my answer was about the Democrats. The "what about"s aren't compelling.
- Jan 6 was bad. People who were charged, put on trial, and convicted for being part of that very, very clearly did not get a fair trial. Some went to prison for years for ... walking in to a building, looking around a bit, taking some pictures, and walking out. This does not come close to comparing to the scale of destruction visited on American cities by the Floyd riots. Almost none of those people were punished. We're talking a 100x difference, maybe more. Don't forget the "oh jk jk gathering is fine if it's for political purposes we approve of" move by the dems during covid too.
- This is a really specific case! Seems like they shouldn't have done that. It does not compare to, "We're going to create this category of speech we'll call "hate speech", and make that illegal for everyone. Also, we'll force everyone to say stuff they don't want to say". That specific case hinges on what the Dept. of Ed's remit is. It's totally cool to ask your gov't employees to send emails promoting things they don't agree with, it's not cool to ask them to do it if it's too partisan.
- I don't understand the 1A comment about 2A rights. I support 1A rights?
- CA is not the US, and it's disingenuous to point to that. Presumably this would have been obvious to you. Here's evidence: https://electionconfidence.org/issues/voter-id/broad-support...
> I can understand having strong feelings, but the question was about the Democrats so my answer was about the Democrats.
The question was actually, and I quote:
"In what way is the Democratic party more authoritarian?"
So I'm left wondering why these authoritarian acts don't count in a comparison between the two.
Fair
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Another propagandized fool who thinks they see the world for what it is and the rest of us don't. The real nazis did show up. They are wearing the same red hat you have in your closet.
Bullshit. Like, you are just straight lying in both of your sentences.
We see what modern republican party does - literally last two years.
You mean like creating an autonomous paramilitary force that operates masked agents across multiple state lines kidnapping people without due process or any regard to the constitution?
ICE, CBP, DHS, and their predecessor agencies, have been forcibly removing illegal immigrants for decades.
And in this iteration, they murdered, intentionally and proudly abused, treated whole cities as occupied territories, lied to courts, beated citizens (and murdered them) ....
... while republican party and administration openly supported it.
As Trump would say "this is the opinion of a very low IQ person"
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