And the average increase in world population is about 1% per year, plus the bulk of the existing population is 'developing' i.e industrialization.

As fast as solar, wind, etc electricity production grows, the number of people requiring it grows along-side.

Also, 'renewable' is misleading, 'replaceable' is more accurate, all renewable energy generators wear out as everything does and need to be replaced using non-renewable energy mostly (you can't build solar panels from solar panel energy)

> you can't build solar panels from solar panel energy

... Why?

For the same reason there were no solar panels prior to 1800, there was not an excess of societal energy to invent and produce them. Solar panels are not trees.

And relying on trees is not a great idea either, look at Easter Island, lol.

(GPT has all the answers anyway, no need to ask me, I'm an old man with no issue and no stake in this stuff)

You can do the whole process from mining and recycling to installation using solar power. Trucks, furnaces, cargo ships can all be electrified. The only reason we're not doing that today is fossil fuels are still cheaper.

I agree with a lot of what you say, except the bit about "cargo ships can all be electrified". It is more likely that they will use ammonia or hydrogen that are fully produced using only electricity (and some air/water).

I could try and explain 'energy return on energy invested' (EROEI) but what's the point? it won't make any difference.

There were no solar panels because we didn’t know how to build them until the 20th century. Today you can run the factories that make them on renewable energy without a problem.