But you are fine if the cars comes from a country with no labor protection, overworked work force, keeps social score on its people, has political prisoners and keep large swaths of unwanted minority in concentration camps,...
I didn't know Americans don't have unions or they have 996 working hours or they jumping from the buildings because of unbearable working conditions. I didn't even know there are political prisoners in the USA or that Americans are afraid of criticizing their own government. Even if we pretend what you say it's true, doesn't the last missing bit in your own words bother you enough to forgo buying a Chinese car?
Maybe it gives me some pause, but the ceo of ctl or byd isn't actively an antagonist and actively operating as a villain against everything I value, they're just trying to make cool cars and the best batteries. In all honesty I think most people around the world see the US and China unfortunately in the same light - that's not how the world was 5-6 years ago.
You can argue that the actual real on the ground experience is different, but this is how my neighbors and family think.
That is an evil way to think, my friend. It is not okay to write someone off because they don't view a transaction with the same moral gravity you do. I encourage you to reconsider your perspective, because this kind of thinking is unfortunately commonplace and it is corrosive to our society.
When this person openly meddles into politics of your country by supporting openly fascist and racist parties and spreading lies, it might not be that extreme to not want to support him.
Whether or not it’s extreme and weird, it’s certainly widely held. In North America, buying a Tesla is widely seen (and rightly so IMO) as condoning Elon’s Naziism.
Using the word “Nazi” to disapprove of someone you don’t agree with is extreme, and it is indecent. Look at the footage that your military took when they liberated Dachau. That was the work of Nazis. That is the meaning of that word. Nazis were mass murderers with no regard for human life. Babies were thrown into the flames alive. Families dragged into the forest and mowed down - the elderly last, so they’d have to watch their kids and grandkids be murdered before they would die themselves. So take one moment and reflect. Is there anything happening today that you could reasonably call by the same name?
Elon Musk did the Nazi solute twice on live television and is funding the Nazi revive movement in Germany. Like the KKK had 3 iterations, but no one says group 3 isn't the KKK just cause they are less powerful.
He's a racist right winger that did a Nazi salute. It's perfectly fine to call him a Nazi. Grow up
Eta: you are deliberately ignoring the people languishing in immigration camps and murdered by the secret police thanks to the candidate Musk funded, i wonder why
Do you all think eating at Chik-fil-a means you’re against the LGBTQ community? What about still enjoying the Harry Potter franchise regardless of JK Rowling’s opinions? How far do we take this? Do we condone the decisions of our leadership in the White House because we all live here and pay taxes even if we have the opportunity to emigrate elsewhere?
These swathing broad brush paint strokes where we constantly divide each other are extreme. Do you truly and honestly think the majority of people buying Teslas and even owning equity (mutual funds/401ks/stock) believe and condone the extermination of the Jewish community?
That’s fine if you want to vote with your own wallet, but virtue signaling against others and accusing them of being Nazi sympathizers because of buying a car is going to be met with eye rolls.
> What about still enjoying the Harry Potter franchise regardless of JK Rowling’s opinions?
You can enjoy the Harry Potter franchise without paying for it.
I certainly would not feel comfortable sending any of my money to her, which I honestly feel is a far less controversial position than taking an opinion on the morality of other people based on their Tesla purchases.
I do think it's easy to not fund LGBTQ+ hate by not eating at Chik-fil-a, and it's easy to not fund trans hate by not funding JK Rowling. If you do either of those things, I do think lesser of you because you obviously think lesser of me if a chicken sandwich or book is more important.
What is your opinion of driving a car from a country with an authoritarian government which is keeping social score on its people and put millions of Uyghurs through concentration camps. Lets not forget about political prisoners or organ harvesting.
But you are fine if the cars comes from a country with no labor protection, overworked work force, keeps social score on its people, has political prisoners and keep large swaths of unwanted minority in concentration camps,...
Except for the last bit, as an outsider to the US you literally just described the USA as it is today.
I didn't know Americans don't have unions or they have 996 working hours or they jumping from the buildings because of unbearable working conditions. I didn't even know there are political prisoners in the USA or that Americans are afraid of criticizing their own government. Even if we pretend what you say it's true, doesn't the last missing bit in your own words bother you enough to forgo buying a Chinese car?
Maybe it gives me some pause, but the ceo of ctl or byd isn't actively an antagonist and actively operating as a villain against everything I value, they're just trying to make cool cars and the best batteries. In all honesty I think most people around the world see the US and China unfortunately in the same light - that's not how the world was 5-6 years ago.
You can argue that the actual real on the ground experience is different, but this is how my neighbors and family think.
That is an evil way to think, my friend. It is not okay to write someone off because they don't view a transaction with the same moral gravity you do. I encourage you to reconsider your perspective, because this kind of thinking is unfortunately commonplace and it is corrosive to our society.
That is such an extreme and weird opinion
When this person openly meddles into politics of your country by supporting openly fascist and racist parties and spreading lies, it might not be that extreme to not want to support him.
Whether or not it’s extreme and weird, it’s certainly widely held. In North America, buying a Tesla is widely seen (and rightly so IMO) as condoning Elon’s Naziism.
Using the word “Nazi” to disapprove of someone you don’t agree with is extreme, and it is indecent. Look at the footage that your military took when they liberated Dachau. That was the work of Nazis. That is the meaning of that word. Nazis were mass murderers with no regard for human life. Babies were thrown into the flames alive. Families dragged into the forest and mowed down - the elderly last, so they’d have to watch their kids and grandkids be murdered before they would die themselves. So take one moment and reflect. Is there anything happening today that you could reasonably call by the same name?
Elon Musk did the Nazi solute twice on live television and is funding the Nazi revive movement in Germany. Like the KKK had 3 iterations, but no one says group 3 isn't the KKK just cause they are less powerful.
This is just such a weird take. By that logic, even the Nazi party weren't Nazis before they came into power.
He is funding Nazi parties.
He's a racist right winger that did a Nazi salute. It's perfectly fine to call him a Nazi. Grow up
Eta: you are deliberately ignoring the people languishing in immigration camps and murdered by the secret police thanks to the candidate Musk funded, i wonder why
Do you all think eating at Chik-fil-a means you’re against the LGBTQ community? What about still enjoying the Harry Potter franchise regardless of JK Rowling’s opinions? How far do we take this? Do we condone the decisions of our leadership in the White House because we all live here and pay taxes even if we have the opportunity to emigrate elsewhere? These swathing broad brush paint strokes where we constantly divide each other are extreme. Do you truly and honestly think the majority of people buying Teslas and even owning equity (mutual funds/401ks/stock) believe and condone the extermination of the Jewish community?
That’s fine if you want to vote with your own wallet, but virtue signaling against others and accusing them of being Nazi sympathizers because of buying a car is going to be met with eye rolls.
> What about still enjoying the Harry Potter franchise regardless of JK Rowling’s opinions?
You can enjoy the Harry Potter franchise without paying for it.
I certainly would not feel comfortable sending any of my money to her, which I honestly feel is a far less controversial position than taking an opinion on the morality of other people based on their Tesla purchases.
I do think it's easy to not fund LGBTQ+ hate by not eating at Chik-fil-a, and it's easy to not fund trans hate by not funding JK Rowling. If you do either of those things, I do think lesser of you because you obviously think lesser of me if a chicken sandwich or book is more important.
That is not what people think when they buy a sandwich. At least make a fair argument. Mind you I don't live anywhere near this argument.
No it's not.
If you drove a Volkswagen and wore Hugo Boss in the 1940s, people would rightly wonder if you were literally a Nazi.
If I see you driving a new Tesla, especially a Cybertruck, I just assume you are fine with pedophilia and fascism.
What is your opinion of driving a car from a country with an authoritarian government which is keeping social score on its people and put millions of Uyghurs through concentration camps. Lets not forget about political prisoners or organ harvesting.
I dont know if this is an extreme opinion.
Elon helped Trump get elected, who has been hostile towards Canada and its economy.