> Google has the products

Outside their most successful products (YouTube, Android, GMail, Chrome, Search), their products are usually worse than their competitors (e.g. GMeet vs Zoom)

> the brand recognition

Of not maintaining/outright abandoning their products, and making Search worse over the years?

> most importantly a billion normies

ChatGPT has 1.2B weekly active users, all the normies know what ChatGPT is but don't know about Gemini (outside the "AI Mode" stuff)

> (e.g. GMeet vs Zoom)

I dunno if that's a great example - I'm sure Zoom has more awareness in the zeitgeist, but from my standpoint it's an app most well-known for security problems and abusing OS conventions, while Google Meet just quietly and simply works whenever I want to call my mom.

If you go from Zoom to Google Meet you will notice a massive difference in audio quality.

Agree 100%. I generally find Google Meet to be the least bad video conference option (with Teams = Worst).

Google meet screen sharing is a horrendous UX, reactions are clunkier than zoom, the tiling options are worse than zoom, and I have yet to see a conference room setup that actually works with HDMI inputs.

But yeah, other than that meet is fine.

Outside of their successful products their products are terrible isn't even an argument.

They have many successful products. Most have only 1-2.

Youtube, Android, Chrome, Search, Photos, Workspaces, Cloud, Fitbit, Pixel Phones, Waymo not to mention dozens of open source projects.

> Of not maintaining/outright abandoning their products, and making Search worse over the years?

You just said their products are terrible. They do shut the products that do not meet the bar. That is good thing.

> ChatGPT has 1.2B weekly active users, all the normies know what ChatGPT is but don't know about Gemini (outside the "AI Mod

No one needs to know what Gemini are. If they have used search they have used it.

The Gemini app has the same number of users almost as GPT app. Sundar said so today.