Standing by morals and ethical responsibilities is hard, it takes mental and physical energy and there are plenty of ethical fights we all have to concede every day as a result. But at the “society” level, I think this sort of rhetoric just leads us further down the hole. We can continue to fight the battles that we have the willpower and means to fight, and that’s a very individual decision. Principled people with high tolerance for bullshit (seemingly like the guy in TFA) can make a lot of difference, IMO.
> Principled people with high tolerance for bullshit (seemingly like the guy in TFA) can make a lot of difference
> great for him until the goals given him are unachievable, in the given timelines, by human thinking and reasoning alone.
Sorry but as much as I would like to agree with what you are saying managers, CEOs, shareholders and everyone that connects that chain won't ever care about ethics or morals when it comes to making a buck or getting one over the competition. Not in the system we are in.
This just reminds me of the whole bun fiasco. If your manager asks you to rewrite a years-old codebase in a week for immediate deployment, is it not acceptable to push back?
If you work in a regulated industry, or even just if your product has had a tough relationship with incidents of late, that makes this kind of push back even more defensible.
then someone needs to explain the military-industrial complex, sweatshops, industrial animal farming and many more practices which seemingly are incredibly profitable despite (because?) being compeltely immoral
“Not with that attitude!”
Standing by morals and ethical responsibilities is hard, it takes mental and physical energy and there are plenty of ethical fights we all have to concede every day as a result. But at the “society” level, I think this sort of rhetoric just leads us further down the hole. We can continue to fight the battles that we have the willpower and means to fight, and that’s a very individual decision. Principled people with high tolerance for bullshit (seemingly like the guy in TFA) can make a lot of difference, IMO.
> Principled people with high tolerance for bullshit (seemingly like the guy in TFA) can make a lot of difference
> great for him until the goals given him are unachievable, in the given timelines, by human thinking and reasoning alone.
Sorry but as much as I would like to agree with what you are saying managers, CEOs, shareholders and everyone that connects that chain won't ever care about ethics or morals when it comes to making a buck or getting one over the competition. Not in the system we are in.
s/moral and ethical/professional/
This just reminds me of the whole bun fiasco. If your manager asks you to rewrite a years-old codebase in a week for immediate deployment, is it not acceptable to push back?
If you work in a regulated industry, or even just if your product has had a tough relationship with incidents of late, that makes this kind of push back even more defensible.
We live in a world where most (almost all?) humans value them.
then someone needs to explain the military-industrial complex, sweatshops, industrial animal farming and many more practices which seemingly are incredibly profitable despite (because?) being compeltely immoral