You give up some rights for internal stability and in theory better social benefits.
In America, our social contract allows 10 guilty men to go free rather than imprisoning one innocent.
That's the myth anyway. Back in reality America is rapidly marching towards authoritarian capitalism.
Jump outs , black sites, indefinite detention.
>Naturally the common people don't want war . . . but after all it is the leaders of a country who determine policy, and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy, or a fascist dictatorship, or parliament or a communist dictatorship. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same in every country.
-Hermann Goering
Thus we're always at War.
War on Drugs.
War on Illegal Immigration.
War on Crime.
War on you.
So what we've already deported multiple born in the US citizens. This is war!
You guys are never able to manage one. That guy is a Mexican national, not an American
The children aren't deported, their parents are. They, of course, get the choice to take their children with them. You don't want to split apart families, right?
Of course #3 isn't a deportation so I didn't even look at it
From what I've seen it looks like he has a birth certificate in both countries? If he does and his US birth certificate says he was born in the US then he is a US citizen.
Freedom isn't really about whether your country is a democracy or not. Dictatorships can be free (for a while) and democracies can be unfree (Hitler was elected).
>China, Russia
both notorious for bragging about being the most free country on earth
Are China and Russia democracies?
In China the social contract is different.
You give up some rights for internal stability and in theory better social benefits.
In America, our social contract allows 10 guilty men to go free rather than imprisoning one innocent.
That's the myth anyway. Back in reality America is rapidly marching towards authoritarian capitalism.
Jump outs , black sites, indefinite detention.
>Naturally the common people don't want war . . . but after all it is the leaders of a country who determine policy, and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy, or a fascist dictatorship, or parliament or a communist dictatorship. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same in every country.
-Hermann Goering
Thus we're always at War. War on Drugs. War on Illegal Immigration. War on Crime. War on you.
So what we've already deported multiple born in the US citizens. This is war!
>In America, our social contract allows 10 guilty men to go free rather than imprisoning one innocent.
For criminal matters, sure.
In civil and administrative matters it's the opposite with the decimal moved to the left a couple times.
> So what we've already deported multiple born in the US citizens
What are their names?
Full deportation
https://www.texastribune.org/2026/04/23/texas-united-states-...
https://www.pbs.org/newshour/amp/show/children-who-are-u-s-c...
Indefinite detention for being Hispanic despite being born in America.
https://www.cbsnews.com/baltimore/news/deportation-effort-ma...
https://www.reddit.com/r/immigration/comments/1w8vhot/born_h...
You guys are never able to manage one. That guy is a Mexican national, not an American
The children aren't deported, their parents are. They, of course, get the choice to take their children with them. You don't want to split apart families, right?
Of course #3 isn't a deportation so I didn't even look at it
> That guy is a Mexican national, not an American
If they actually have a valid US birth certificate then how can you say that?
He actually has a valid Mexican birth certificate, and the guys in charge of who is and isn't a citizen said he isn't.
They didn't randomly pick on this guy, and they've deported millions of people without deporting a citizen.
From what I've seen it looks like he has a birth certificate in both countries? If he does and his US birth certificate says he was born in the US then he is a US citizen.
Not to mention at least a few hundred America citizens have been indefinitely detained in all this.
A few other examples of full citizens being deported are out there , but your not going to convince certain people with logic.
>Karen, 65, had a British passport and a tourist visa.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2026/feb/21/karen-newton...
Thank God we surrendered all of our basic rights. Anything to stop elderly British women!
Freedom isn't really about whether your country is a democracy or not. Dictatorships can be free (for a while) and democracies can be unfree (Hitler was elected).