> It's always been a possibility that when you sent an email
Yes, and that's exactly why E2EE messaging became a thing. Signal put it on the map through the WhatsApp integration.
To me there is a difference if the server spies on me (that's without E2EE) or if the person I am writing to leaks everything on the Internet.
If the person you're writing to leaks everything on the Internet, you should consider you are talking to them in public. I'm sure you don't say all the same things when you are in the metro or when you are in private, or do you?
Your comment is correct but rarely practical.
- Most people are not in Signal
- I have friends that want utmost privacy and shun me for using Android and buy iPhone etc but then install Google Maps. Add my name/address/email/phone etc to google sync.
- Worse - many employers are using FAANG for services. How many managers are uploading Excel sheets? Who supervisors them?
- Even if I keep every thing locally (which I don't ) finally govt will lose their passport database and ...
> - Most people are not in Signal
Whatsapp uses the Signal protocol for E2EE: https://signal.org/blog/whatsapp-complete/
So yeah, whatsapp messages are E2E encrypted and therefore can not be used as training data unless you upload them to the cloud manually, as this project does
> Most people are not in Signal
So what? WhatsApp is end-to-end encrypted. Signal is better (e.g. because the client is open source), but security is a gradient. WhatsApp is better than Telegram in terms of security.
> but then install Google Maps
Again, it's a gradient. Sure, they leak some data, but at least they don't leak all the content of all their messages. Or would you say that if you leak your name on the Internet, you may as well publish your sextape because "now everybody knows your name, you have nothing to hide anymore"?
> How many managers are uploading Excel sheets?
So because my company leaks my work documents to Microsoft means that I should leak the content of the messages I send to my partner? How do you get to that conclusion?
> finally govt will lose their passport database and ...
Right. And it is a known fact that when the government loses their passport database, suddenly your private pictures appear on the public Internet! /s
> Yes, and that's exactly why E2EE messaging became a thing.
Pretty much never for email. Maybe some people go out of their way to perform PGP but that's usually only for the most sensitive of information and sometimes not even for that.
The only thing I've used PGP for in many years is encrypting my home address when buying darknet drugs