Pretty on point with what I'm saying. I remember when Tor first launched and it was definitely framed at the time as for human rights. I absolutely believed all of that for years.

You yourself spoke with the founder about this?

The development of onion routing funded by the NRL had a bunch of use cases including the one I mentioned. By the time Tor (The Onion Router) launched, and definitely by the time the Tor Project came along, more general use cases and human rights were a significant part of it.

I did have the chance to attend a talk by one of the cofounders and have a conversation with him afterwards. This was at a math conference a little over a decade ago.