I don't think the challenge with speech to text was size of the binary. In my experience the challenge is understanding my 84 year old Croatian father with a sagging mouth after a stroke, when he's trying to write his autobiography.

I just setup Windows speech to text for him last week and it's great to see how he can write an entire page in 10 minutes, it would take him days using the keyboard.

But every single sound he makes with his mouth ends up on the page too.

Sorry about your father. He needs a dictation model, not a general purpose speech-to-text model. They ignore umms and ahhs, change things like “an elephant, no a monkey, went up the tree” to “a monkey went up the tree,” support saying punctuation aloud sometimes, etc.

Gemini team just released Gemini 3.5 Transcribe that’s supposed to be good at this; it’s available via api: https://blog.google/innovation-and-ai/models-and-research/ge...

For essentially infinite and fast dictation I use https://github.com/cjpais/Handy on Parakeet streaming (cohere is far better, but slower and has a token output limit so you cant ramble for many minutes). And then just do a cleanup pass with a cheap LLM, it will in my experience, do far better than trying to voice control to go edit a sentence or change words. I just weave instructions into my writing. I understand this requires technical know-how, but for those with it, this is the best solution I have found to long form writing without my hands.

I literally today pushed v0.1 of my dictation app that does both in a single package. You can connect either to a cheap LLM but I've set it up out of the box to use Qwen3.5 9b which does the job well for free, and everything stays local, no telemetry. You can also use Claude/OpenAI/Local providers. https://github.com/lnenad/lipwise

Difference with voice ink?

Neat, thanks!

Another plug for Handy, and wanted to share something cool about it.

You can set it "Push to talk" mode (like a walkie-talkie radio), and when you're done talking and release the button, it can paste the text into any text field.

You can even replicate ChatGPT voice conversation mode, by having Handy as your speech input, and then (I forgot the extension) enabling a speech-to-text model for OpenCode. Surprisingly relaxing flow for certain tasks, like tweaking a website's styles.

Technical knowhow? Handy is a gui right? (Also Parakeet is great I use it everyday)

Agreed, record and transcribe however you can and then use a LLM to clear out.

I prompt it to:

"Attached (or underneath) is the transcript of a self recording i've done with tons of rambling and some incorrect words transcriptions, please do a pass clearing out and arranging any typos or possible misunderstandings. Keep original in parenthesis when not sure if it's a misunderstanding. Do not summarize or alter the nature of the content, simply tidy the transcript."

Original in parentheses is very interesting.

FluidVoice is working on that I believe w/Fluid-1 model https://github.com/altic-dev/FluidVoice

Love Handy. It has become a core piece of how I use computers.

In case it's helpful to anyone else using it, at first it felt a bit slow to me, because there was a noticeable pause after I finished a message before it would quickly type it all out. I changed the input method from direct to clipboard and it's way faster now, almost instantaneous.

+1 for handy and then using LLM's for the cleanup pass, though what are your observations on feeling as if sharing that output though?

Because I have seemingly mixed opinions on it, on one hand, I did put the effort but on the other, the output is AI generated so I am unsure about sharing it with others (because they might think its AI generated)

Do you use it for very small edits (removing just the uhhm's?) or for slightly more edits.

The way that I use it sometimes is that while thinking, I will write something which can sometimes make me feel as if a better re-write can better explain my thoughts or rephrasing it as such. For example. I will think about X topic, connect it to Y, then try to add some more points about X again.

I found LLM's to do a really decent job at generating the final outputs as such, but as I said, I am left sometimes feeling a little confused as to sharing it or not because of it being AI generated and the end user not knowing if I put an actual effort into creation of it or not.

Should I try to share the actual transcript of it as well, I really wish if some good ethics and internet ettiquette could be established about it.

what do you mean:

"what are your observations on feeling as if sharing that output though?"

and "Should I try to share the actual transcript of it as well, I really wish if some good ethics and internet ettiquette could be established about it."

could you rephrase the question

for STT, it's literally you saying it, with a model transcribing, and then another model correcting a little, and you also have control over editing it. I don't think any of the arguments on "etiquette re: sharing AI output" apply here.

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I've been using Gemini Desktop App purely for dictation. It's a miracle! For the first time in my life I'm blown away by the quality of my (heavy accent) speech recognition. Just be sure to disable the "speak to window -> reasoning" option to make it purely dictation and stop from writing whole emails for you.

> I don't think the challenge with speech to text was size of the binary

The usecase for small models like this is making on-device STT/TTS more accessable. This is important if your usecase is sensitive to either privacy or latency, but this comes at the cost of quality.

My experience has been that these small TTS models are unexpectedly good if your audio is in distribution (western accents, higher quality audio, common vocabulary), but pretty quickly degrade as you move outside of that. They often dont support more complex features such as diarization, multilingual, or realtime streaming either.

There are many different challenges, each requiring their own solution. I, for one, really miss the old Google Assistant on my Android phone. It would very reliably play most songs that I wanted to hear on Spotify. Gemini fails at this almost every time, and is significantly slower. It's actually a difficult problem, as the songs people want to hear are regularly being released, are often associated with uncommon names, or have words in unusual orders, so normal LLM style tools just don't cut it.

One of the most common things I did with google assistant was tell it to remind me to do something, and it would reliably create a reminder on my calendar. With Gemini, it is very unreliable. Sometimes it does a google search. Sometimes it just opens a Gemini chat where it parrots back a (sometimes garbled) paraphrase of my request. Etc.

It's also really terrible at recognizing names of my contacts, probably because those names are not represented in the training data.

This reminds me of how the thing iPhones had pre-Siri (so we're talking pre-2010), which was entirely offline, did a better job than even the most modern thing at "Play [one of the finite set of songs in my library]." I sometimes get absurd matches from bands I've never heard of, when the right answer is something right there in my library.

It's odd that the matching algorithm does not simply prioritize the music already in your library, but I see something similar in other domains where machine learning/information retrieval is used. E.g., in Apple Maps, I might have the map centered over my location and type in a restaurant nearby. Often, Apple Maps will find a restaurant with the same name on the other side of the country. This strikes me as an easy thing to fix (and Apple Maps has had this bug from the beginning), but if somebody knows something abou this, I'd love to know. Maybe it's harder than I imagine.

It's just useless for me now, the change happened some 5 or so years ago.

"Hey Siri, play [song]"

Leads to, take your pick:

- "You'll need to unlock your iPhone first."

- "I couldn't find [song] on Podcasts" (??????)

- "Playing [a totally different song]"

- "I couldn't find any music by [song, but it thinks it's a band]"

- "Playing music by [song, again it thinks it's a band]"

Settings -> Accessibility -> Side Button -> under "Press and Hold to Speak" choose "Classic Voice Control"

This is because, in the case of a restricted set of possibilities, voice recognition circa 2000 was actually very very good.

If you can do something with an extremely limited vocab, voice recognition was fine using off the shelf microchips in the 70s, where you wired in a microphone connection and had discrete pins for output actions.

LLMs are basically only useful for utterly free form transcription, but that doesn't actually help you turn that into tasks to perform and parameters for those tasks

The core "problem" in voice recognition is that freeform speech is an abysmal UX paradigm and provides zero discoverability, and LLMs IMO have not improved the situation of actually doing anything with the resulting text.

The other day I tried to prompt Gemini 3 times to tell me what the heck the business with a weird sign I saw was. The first prompt worked with a stale location context and therefore was way off, the second prompt had to reach out to google servers, and came back with recognizing the physical space I was discussing, but told me that I was talking about an event that takes place in the museum next door that I had told the model was next door to the business in question, the third try it still seemed to understand where I was referencing, but insisted I couldn't possibly be talking about anything there.

It took 1 second on google maps to find exactly what I was referring to, which was the business in Google's system located at the exact map location the model had found.

I'm sick and tired of people turning to LLM and "AI" tools to pretend they are better, when the problem is that these companies don't even use existing good solutions because they just don't care.

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I hope you will find a solid solution for your father.

I was researching STT for people with speech disorders two years ago and essentially everything was boiling down to three problems at the end of the day - data scarcity, irregularity of way of speaking and thus constant ambiguity in translation, and individual differences in speech patterns among patients.

This is a pretty cool one I saw recently: https://youtu.be/_j806JHhCRo?si=tr8ENJo_VlJF-b4y

Have you tried playing music from his childhood for 20 minutes a day before his writing sessions?

In some cases, this may improve function for a few hours. Best regards =3

i mean for something this small, it can be fit into a l3 cache on a cpu and be essentially always on various purposes

Unrelated: I love your username.