Something horrible must have happened, if macOS users are curling shell scripts from the internet to make their desktops more like Linux.

Uncomfortable, but true.

GNOME has reached maturity and hasn't changed significantly in years, while Apple is busy destroying macOS.

Really? GNOME is not what I would recommend to people.

I should applaud their efforts, and I get that much of it is voluntary, but their bugs are numerous, notable and the way they interact with the rest of the universe (both people with accessibility needs, and the wider developer ecosystem on linux) can most accurately be described as arrogant and hostile.

KDE is the bastion of maturity here, and I would agree that it is mature.

I’m not sure how the love for GNOME continues when KDE (while not my personal choice) has clearly been running circles around it since GNOME3 and the gap has only widened since that change too.

Both desktops are pretty mature. I've run both of their Wayland stacks, and Mutter/KWin both perform great these days. It really comes down to personal preference for most use-cases.

Their world view that "Apple can do no wrong" is slowly shattering, it seems

curl|bash is now standard way to install packages on both macOS and Linux. It’s maddening, but it is now.

Meanwhile on Windows we mostly use the store or winget, funny times.

Yeah. I think of Windows as basically “homebrew comes preinstalled”.

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The want some disk space back.

Personally, my limited experimentation with Apple AI has left me quite liking it.

The contents of the Exportable’Privacy Report’ are interesting to look through

I first saw it with Homebrew over a decade ago. It made it more linux, it's true. (Of course now that its for linuxes too, so they get to be more like macs.)

I see archive.today has the charming old ruby version on the bottom of a 2013 brew.sh page in 2013, when I must first have used it https://archive.ph/lCqJ1

    ruby -e "$(curl -fsSL https://raw.github.com/mxcl/homebrew/go)"
But the form of incantation is now pervasive.

I'm sick of juggling disk space on my 1tb laptop AND I don't want an llm attack vector anywhere near my machine, this things getting nuked from orbit or i'm not updating to golden gate, ever.

Nope. The only people who notice or care about any of this are those who can't accommodate the storage. Outside that, it all just works better now (especially Siri).

People with 256GB laptops care when the 27 AI stuff burns up 10-20% of their storage.

So don't install Chrome.

Most people want Chrome for the inevitable site that doesn’t work in Safari.

The problem is Apple intelligence is decent, but not worth 20% of your storage decent.

Chrome downloads a large LLM without warning or permission.

Frankly, the only company attempting to create websites that only work in Chrome is Google.

Do people actually use Siri AI on the Mac? Whenever I need something done that needs AI on a mac I just use Claude Code.

I can imagine Siri AI being useful on iOS because of its deep integration to the OS. But for MacOS there’s better tools

Saying that Siri "works" is peak Apple fanboism.

Also "those who can't accommodate the storage" is funny.

What's that? You didn't pay Apple's 1200% markup on storage, just so you can have enough room for your actual work after the OS fills your disk with a bunch of bloat? What are you, poor?

The new one just works. Do try it.

>do try it

Thank you, I might. I never have, the launch was such a mess, I've never looked back and fastidiously turn it all off.

What's changed, for you to say it now works? And what do you successfully and regularly do with it?

It damn well better, for using 14gb+ of storage.

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