The ratio of the economy that gets collected as taxes has only gone up over time. Do you have an idea for how much should be collected as some ideal ratio? At what point do the effects of taxation become counterproductive?

Well, the general economic consensus is that for income taxes, the revenue-maximizing peak of the Laffer curve is around 65-70% [1]. Revenue maximization isn't necessarily the right primary goal, though.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laffer_curve#Income_tax_rate_a...

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Same back at you. Clearly you think they’re too high. So what is the correct ratio?

The straightforward answer is there is no correct ratio. The best tax regime is the one that allows for sufficient funding of necessary and desired services and long-term economic investment while also balancing wealth creation with wealth inequality. That number isn’t fixed and it’s clear that it shouldn’t be evenly borne by the population as a whole.

I made no such claim. I simply asked someone who said that we can all agree taxes must go up to what level they were referring to and how they chose the number. If there is no fixed ratio such as you say, then their claim is clearly false.

Sorry, but this is bullshit. You’re not fooling anyone. If you think the GP needs to provide an ideal tax ratio, so do you. You don’t get to opt out and pretend you’re above it all.