This is great. I really like the “dumb phone” movement.

Sadly for now they’re too expensive to buy just as an experiment.

It's still full Android. You could get part of the way there by just installing a different launcher.

my question is why is it soo expensive if you are just making a dumb phone, give me a 100-200$ option with less ram and storage i'll be all in

Exactly. I would want:

-Phone/texting -Messengers like WhatsApp/Telegram/etc. -Maps -Music/podcasts

Ideally with e-ink.

I want something that doesn't compete with a full-fledged smartphone (which I'd still keep for travel and stuff). I want something to take to the office, hanging out with friends, etc, where bringing the smartphone becomes a decision.

I think if you ask 5 people what dumb (enough) phone meant you'd get seven answers.

For some anything after SMS is not dumb enough (ok, this still exists), others would be ok with just a browser, and you said Maps and WA/etc/.

I am not even sure I could give you a good enough definition, I'm kinda happy enough with Android and just ignore any dumb/minimal angle, because if I only take a phone with me I generally want to potentially use it as a computer replacement. There are really only 2 people I call regularly.

> I think if you ask 5 people what dumb (enough) phone meant you'd get seven answers.

Yes, but I think anyone interested in this would know what they don't want: TikTok, Instagram, Reddit, YouTube, or any other app that wants you to spend maximum time in their app.

Unless we're talking about complete purists who basically want a 2003 level phone that only does call/text, there's lots of flexibility.

Someone who wants a less addicting phone but doesn't necessarily require maps is unlikely to not buy because of a maps app. It's not like they'd spend 3 hours a day getting directions.

I honestly don’t think you’d get that much variation. Beyond phone/sms, the list would likely end up with just these:

- decent camera

- messaging apps (WhatsApp/telegram/signal/etc)

- email

- maps

- rideshare (uber/lyft)

- mobile wallet (tap to pay)

People will also demand a browser, but that kind of defeats the purpose. All the apps should be utilities that you can’t spend hours in.

I suspect people would also demand music streaming, but I’m not sure really why you need that.

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low volume products are expensive