They want control on the walled garden. When was the last time apple did anything for public unless forced by FCC. Now there is no hope since they can simply donate to trump.

Apple made some changes specifically for Asahi Linux to make it more robust.

I believe it was Hector Martin who discussed it on Mastodon a while ago.

Discussed here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29591578

Discussed there, but shame the original linked tweet is deleted

Would you happen to have a link to this? I would like to learn about this but unfortunately treehouse.systems doesn't seem to be very well indexed by search engines, and Mastodon's search is failing me.

Source? It's a welcome thing but very much not like Apple.

Apple has a long long history of supporting open source.

can you please tell us what have they done for open source except LLVM.

Probably took me less time to search “Apple open source” and click the first link than it did to type your question:

https://opensource.apple.com/

Basically nothing except swift and llvm.

They are able to rebrand other peoples stuff!

I mean, if you can’t read I could see how one might walk away with that impression.

My argument was apple is doing nothing much for open source, then you suddenly come with link that shows Apple has done nothing for open source compared to other company like Microsoft or Google or even Meta.

Swift, WebKit, Darwin/XNU, MLX, FoundationDB, Container, Pkl, libdispatch (GCD), CUPS, CareKit, ResearchKit, Kubernetes, Cassandra, Spark, Netty, Solr…

Sure, but other then language tools, databases, printing, container orchestration, what have the Roman’s ever done for us?

If you have the will, and the knowledge all of those tools can be used to your advantage but no one has for the most part they want someone else to do it for them for free.

If you see google and microsoft contribution to OSS, apple contribution to OSS is basically nothing.

LLVM / Swift / Webkit & XNU (I don’t really know of anything using Xnu up stream but the others are large open source projects?)

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Clang, OpenCL, MLX

Don't they ship a propetietary clang variant with weirdass version numbers? That was true at least at some point. Fortunately most Mac users on my experiments have given up attempting to compile any code in their Macs after SIP etc made it too annoying so rarely have to support them anymore.

and CUPS

The FCC? I guess you mean their wifi chips or cellular modems or something? I can’t see the FCC having jurisdiction over anything else that Apple does. Maybe you meant the FTC?

> They want control on the walled garden.

It would have been trivial for them to lock out other operating systems entirely.

Even the Asahi team has been much more appreciative of Apple leaving this open.

> It would have been trivial for them to lock out other operating systems entirely.

It is trivial for them to lock out other operating systems entirely.

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Yes but: Apple has no incentive to open up.

Absent that, it'd take some kind of sustained right-to-repair, EU morality, many sternly worded letters pressure campaign.

Plus, once they did (officially), they're kinda committed to keep doing it. That's explains why they remain okay with emoloyees helping on their own time; all the upside, none of the down.