Just one more reason to never use Chrome. Their removal of MV2 to prevent UBlock Origin from working is another.

Chrome product management is horrible. Chrome software engineering is some of the best ever done.

(And no, I don't use it except for testing).

I don’t disagree, two or more things can be true at once.

That said I still use Firefox for other reasons.

I simply don’t trust google, I don’t trust Mozilla either but I do trust them more than Google and you do kinda have to have a browser to function in the modern world.

Which browser has a better security track record?

Despite what people are saying here, chrome has a really excellent track record. Nobody is perfect. Switching just because chrome got exploited one time will likely result in you switching to something worse.

If you're paranoid, disable JIT.

Or disable JS altogether, and enjoy many sites working much quicker. Many others fail & need to be selectively allowed, but it's been worth it.

Vanadium makes improvements on Chromium. https://grapheneos.org/features#vanadium

Most of those are just changing flags, not really unique development. Like "disable JIT" is a Chromium flag. "Zero-init everything" is a Clang flag.

Right, but it's value-add on a derivative, not its own standalone engine.

Firefox with uBlock Origin. It’s astonishing how many exploits uBO stops before they ever reach your browser engine. It’s the antivirus of the 2020s.

Brave would be a much better option if you want security and good adblocking.

Firefox absolutely does not have a better security track record than Chromium browsers and on top of it you’re recommending an extension as a security measure oh my god man this comment needs to be flagged dead

edit: links

https://www.reddit.com/r/GrapheneOS/comments/1unhtxu/initial...

https://grapheneos.org/usage#web-browsing

The idea here is that uBlock filters the domains that may serve the malware in the first place. It basically works the same as a DNS filter.

Which you can also easily do with uBlock Origin Lite in Chrome/Chromium.

I'm willing to believe that stock chrome has a better record than stock Firefox, but

> and on top of it you’re recommending an extension as a security measure

... Yes? Why can a browser extension not be a security measure/improvement?

I suggest Zen browser (fork of FF), it feels closer to chrome.

I hear about Zen. Random q:

It can’t trick Canva into letting you use the color picker, or otherwise enable it, can it - if someone happens to know?

(What a dumb feature to be locked to the Googlesphere.)

What does it mean "closer to chrome"?

In a good way?

Of all the reasons to use non-Chromium browsers whenever possible(!), this isn’t really on the list.

This is like saying never use seatbelts because people still die in car accidents.

Chromium is still far superior on the security front than any other browser.

Oh, right, because other browsers never have bugs.

If we needed any more.

chrome has more bugs, not necessarily because it's less secure, but its popularity makes it a bigger target, so more bugs are found