You'll notice that the aircraft carrier continues sortie generation. What's causing us to lose is failure to achieve victory due to the means employed not the enemy constraining our freedom of action through force. Not to say it's great: it sucks to be on the ship for this, but if Hezbollah murdered 3,000 Americans the shortage wouldn't make the news amid our invading Iran.

> What's causing us to lose is failure to achieve victory due to the means employed

We can all agree on your opening.

> You'll notice that the aircraft carrier continues sortie generation.

No, it doesn't. It's now in Thailand for R&R, then back to base in the US, because of this issue.

https://apnews.com/article/thailand-singapore-us-aircraft-ca...

> What's causing us to lose is failure to achieve victory due to the means employed…

Right. We're being too restrained. That's some Vietnam War era cope you're huffing.

In the Vietnam war the US didn't win because it couldn't, no matter how much force was employed. Here same thing: we can't depose the Iranian government without a land invasion (which is too costly) and nothing else keeps them from having control of the strait.

> In the Vietnam war the US didn't win because it couldn't, no matter how much force was employed. Here same thing

Yes, that is the point everyone has been trying to make.

> if Hezbollah murdered 3,000 Americans the shortage wouldn't make the news

??

What does this even mean? It seems to come out of nowhere. Is it a reference to some event??

It's roughly how many Americans died in September 11.

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