Its funny because Bryan has spend a good part of the last decades walking around and telling people that they should have VM layer. And this criticism can credibly made against his company.

Interestingly he has mentioned that in the podcast and basically said, the industry has standardized on VM and in the kind of environments they run, there just isn't a good way around it.

But yeah, a world where Illumos based bare-metal containers had become the standard would be a nicer. But its not where the market is.