Missing the most important metric: processing power per watt.
I have some server CPUs laying around that can also beat Apple CPUs. But putting them in a compact, densely packed, sealed box (aka a phone) would result in a fireball and almost no battery life.
> I have some server CPUs laying around that can also beat Apple CPUs
In multicore, sure. In most single threaded workloads as well? That'd be interesting enough on its own, regardless of wattage (though that'd make it even more interesting), as my A19 device gives my overclocked 9800X3D a run for its money (and some losses) in single threaded workloads. Considering that's the only thing the 9800X3D is really targeting, it's impressive beyond just whether or not it does so with less power.
No I don’t think you can find a single CPU that can beat Apple CPUs in a single-threaded workload.
Unless you're benchmarking single-threaded SIMD: https://lemire.me/blog/2020/12/13/arm-macbook-vs-intel-macbo...
O3 is supposed to draw 25% less than O1, which according to reviews of their tablets did not throttle.
Their next Fold phone (TBA September) will use O3. I guess we will find out very soon.
some chinese youtubers have posted their test results, seems pretty good, but the devices have been provided to them in advance fwiw
Did their test results include power draw?
I'm sure it benchmarks well, but does it actually have good battery life?
Even aside from battery life, high TDP means thermal throttling under sustained load. Which most of these benchmarks don't really test, or if they did, the ambient temperature affects the results.
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The goalposts have been at "performance-per-watt" for a very, very long time. That was why Apple pivoted from PowerPC to Intel, believe it or not. PowerPC laptops couldn't match the battery life of Intel, so Apple pivoted. How times change!
I mean, they're in a thread on my comment whose point is "let's see power per watt".
The goalposts started there. A comment responded to me by saying some Chinese youtubers found it to be good. The person responded saying "but what about battery life" which was the original topic.
The person you're responding to also has never said anything about any other metric.
top comment right now on this very page: "But actual results inside phone with smartphone cooling and wattage requirement became close to 3300"
No lmao, top comment is saying MediaTek's variant of an ARM C1 Ultra dropped to 3300, attempting to link it to this CPU through vibes and magic