I was using ChatGPT voice during cooking to reflect on variations of a dishes i was preparing for years.

It was so amazing to get advices and reflect that it struck me : I could use this model forever - it’s clever enough to help me tons and do lot of work for me - even if ai would stop evolving I would love it

I share this feeling too. The latest models, even if not necessarily frontier, say Opus 5, Sol high and the likes, I could keep using these models forever even if they did not significantly improve beyond this point. I also believe we'll come up with new ways of using these very same models beyond the mainstream chat and agent interfaces, as the bottleneck is imho in harnesses/environments and not so much model intelligence anymore.

+1 regarding voice usage too, I use it in so many different ways it's hard to enumerate: while driving long distances (think of a custom made, interactive podcast) / as a way to collaboratively build specs or shape an idea / as a way to provide input while vibe coding / just as a normal voice assistant (straight in the ChatGPT app or as OpenClaw input via telegram voice notes). I can't overstate how much my routines have changed over the last couple of years.

imo this is the problem some of these labs are gonna face, because open models will do this just fine and you as the consumer don't need to pay their training costs

especially considering imo most use falls under this instead of those kind of tasks where you'd need the SOTA

Yeah. Sometimes I wonder who the long term financial winners will be from the ai boom. It might be ram / gpu manufacturers. Or whoever cracks putting LLMs on asics.

It's going to be the shareholders of the first companies to crack AGI, and make human brains fully irrelevant economically. With the trillions of dollars that's going in through both investment and users, it's going to happen. I don't believe the human brain has fundamental magic that will make this impossible.

> It's going to be the shareholders of the first companies to crack AGI, and make human brains fully irrelevant economically.

What makes you think if one or two AI labs can do this that the rest (including open model providers) won't be able to follow the same path a few weeks/months later?

Even if you believe in the "Singularity", and believe it is coming soon, I still don't see any reason to believe the Singularity will be... singular. There won't be one clear winner, the race doesn't get called as soon as the first person crosses the line.

None of the AI labs are showing any sign of pulling away to a monopoly or duopoly position, to the contrary the early large leads of OpenAI and Anthropic have all been evaporating.

AI has clear economic value. It still isn't clear at all how the providers of AI will capture that value as the technology becomes rapidly commoditized.

For the downvoters: What magic do you think the human brain has that makes it impossible to emulate acceptably?

LLMs are not emulating the human brain. Somebody may well be able to do that someday, but right now nobody is even trying to.

Why would you need brain emulation to get superhuman intelligence?

Are you making a serious argument that superhuman intelligence is a plausible outcome of training LLMs on everything humanity knows so far? Or are you making the generic assertion that AGI is theoretically possible via means other than emulating the human brain? Because the latter is a strawman (nobody has asserted anything to the contrary), and I have seen no evidence at all to support the former.

I think we can compare the human brain and LLMs on a bunch of capabilities today, and see how we compare. By my reckoning:

- LLMs have better long term memory (they know more than any human) and more working memory (LLMs have fast, uniform access to their whole context window).

- LLMs are faster than we are.

- Humans have online learning (we can do simultaneous learning and inference), giving us advantages in many novel tasks.

- We can learn concepts from far less data. And we can manage our mental context more smoothly.

- We seem to have better world models than current models. AI video just doesn't look right, somehow.

I expect that these remaining weaknesses can be overcome without resorting to human brain emulation. I see no reason to think that current LLMs are at the limit of what technology is capable of.

All it needs is Internet access to remain useful with few shortcomings.

The next step would be automatic self-training. A free LLM that could access HN everyday (and the linked sites) for more data would remain current in programming for a really long time.