Itamar Ben-Gvir, just recently, stated that he wants to kill 30-40 Palestinians every night. He said so, publicly.
So it is hilarious that Israel is trying to influence chatbots when shit like that is out in the open.
Itamar Ben-Gvir, just recently, stated that he wants to kill 30-40 Palestinians every night. He said so, publicly.
So it is hilarious that Israel is trying to influence chatbots when shit like that is out in the open.
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https://apnews.com/article/ben-gvir-israel-gaza-hamas-netany...
> “It’s no secret, I disagree with the prime minister,” he said. “I think targeted assassinations should be carried out in Gaza, taking down 30 to 40 every night. Not just those who pose an immediate threat — there are people there who are not worthy of life. They shouldn’t live. They’re not even people.”
The man used to have a shrine to a mass murderer in his home.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Itamar_Ben-Gvir
> Ben-Gvir is known for being a provocateur and has attracted headlines for a variety of reasons: threatening Prime Minister Yitzhak Rabin on live television in 1995 shortly before his assassination; having had a portrait in his living room of Baruch Goldstein, a Jewish terrorist and mass murderer (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cave_of_the_Patriarchs_massacr...)...
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Trump just recently said he’s considering attacking Oman.
Politicians say really terrible, stupid things on a fairly regular basis. The difference between the two situations is that Ben-Gvir is loathed by 90% of Israeli society (Trump still has 33% approval) and unlike Trump has no power to follow through on his threats.[1]
[1]https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-08-06/israel-court-battle-o...
Yes, he is totally powerless, he merely controls the police and prison system. (BTW, the Israeli government just announced it plans to transfer law enforcement in the West Bank over to Ben-Gvir's police: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2026/aug/14/israeli-milita...)
Worth noting that proposal was stopped on animal rights grounds, rather than humam rights.
It’s an injunction and arguably a legal pretext to stop it in its tracks. That’s not uncommon in any system, just like SCOTUS rulings often seem strangely specific to restrain the scope of their ruling.
Tl;dr Lawfare is a thing and it’s effing everywhere.
> Ben-Gvir is loathed by 90% of Israeli society...Trump still has 33% approval
Maybe that 90% number is for Tel Aviv. In national polls, they both have roughly the same approval rating.
I have a long-held feeling with Trump that his most ardent haters don't hate his specific policies, merely that he's so gauche about it, that he has no class.
I have no doubt that Ben-Gvir has a similar segment of haters in Israel. They want the same things, but they don't want to do it in the style of a leering hooligan fishing for a fistfight.
Edit: too many comments to address, so I'll just say this:
The nuance is in targeted assassinations, which is what has been said. This is only carried out against Hamas, Palestinian Jihad and other terrorist groups. Sadly, there are multiple such organizations so even saying Israel should eliminate 30-40 Hamas members every day isn't going to cover the full roster of terrorist militants in Gaza.
Still not defending Ben Gvir, but taking the time to understand these things is the difference between trying to understand the reality vs. piling on the "Israel bad" wagon, especially if you are parroting the same narrative over and over.
Also, this is exactly why I don't support political posts on HN.
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The fact you're posting this exact same comment multiple times, while ignoring that Ben Gvir was talking about Hamas, is telling.
I don't support Ben Gvir in the slightest but you're using something he said to twist the narrative, which ironically is exactly what the Hanover think-tank was supposedly meant to remedy.
Hamas is the worst of the worst in humanity.
> “It’s no secret, I disagree with the prime minister," he said. “I think targeted assassinations should be carried out in Gaza, taking down 30 to 40 every night,” said the far-right Israeli lawmaker.
> “Not just those who pose an immediate threat, there are people there who are not worthy of life. They shouldn’t live. They’re not even people,” added Ben-Gvir.
Not sure how the full quote is supposed to help.
The real quote seems to be not about Hamas, the comment you are replying to seems correct
https://www.ft.com/content/f6b953fc-a6ad-48cd-bed1-d42619b57...
The hilarity of the fact that you're on my case indicates that you're most probably being paid for this. You are paid. I do this for free.
Let's start educating the public about the Dahiya Doctrine now to change the subject (slightly).
He's not talking about Hamas. Nice try.
Let's not pretend you're not part of the problem. You're parroting things with twisted narrative. Back your claims with facts.
"The Problem". Interesting. What is "The Problem"?
The problem is paid people (or bots?) pushing fake propaganda on HN.
Replace "Hamas" with IDF and it would make sense.
>Hamas is the worst of the worst in humanity.
IDF documenting war crimes against civilians, targetting children by snipers is fine because "protecting country" but Hamas is the bad guy?
What metric outside of Israeli propaganda are you using? Because those same metrics call IDF worse than anyone
Why defend a Nazi?
Yeah they also use dirty tactics like writing the same comment again and again on tech forums to drive their point home , those bastards.
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