<drug> consumers every time: it's actually not bad in moderate consumption/I can quit any time/medication is always a question of dosage

Looks to me like even taking meds for a prolonged amount of time shows you that to any problem you try to fix with externally administered chemistry always has a downside to deal with, too.

Please stop trying to frame your drug habit as a good thing, be it caffeine, weed or worse things like alcohol and beyond. Another one of those things where your mental health depends on you not understanding the problems you cause yourself.

It's not bad in moderation. Sugar is much more addictive and harmful than alcohol, and it's also fine in moderation.

Except the part where where alcohol metabolizes into aldehyde species which cause double strand DNA breaks faster than we can repair them and we get moderate cancers ... but other than that it is great (ignoring the behavioral aberrations).

Sugar is not addictive nor is it "much more harmful than alcohol". No one out there is just eating spoons of sugar because of its addictive properties.

Your post about obesity doesn't imply it's all about sugar.

One of the reasons obesity is such an issue is because of the combination of sweet and savoury foods that are very calories dense and not very satiating.

Basically every culture is built around the consumption of carbohydrates, which are all similarly easy to absorb like sugar. Rice, Potatoes, Bread, it's all in the same category in my understanding. An easy source of burnable energy, easier to break down into the "right kind" of carbon rings than e.g. fat. The comparison is kinda weak, this is literally one of the pathways of our basic metabolism. Unlike alcohol, which has a complex and toxic pathway to get anywhere.

Please provide any scientific evidence of your claim.

USA deaths: mean estimate for obesity-attributable death was 324 940 https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/10546692/ USA deaths: About 178,000 (about 5% of all) yearly deaths from excessive alcohol occurred in 2020 and 2021 in the United States https://www.niaaa.nih.gov/alcohols-effects-health/alcohol-to...

Your claim was: "Sugar is much more addictive and harmful than alcohol". I have no objection to the claim that obesity claims more lives than alcohol in the US.

But I don’t think you get obesity just by eating sugar, you get diabetes. Obesity depends on other factors and eating habits doesn’t it?

Heroin is fine in moderation! /s

The thing is that it's impossible to moderate one's intake as, as you said, it's addictive.

Vast majority of adults consume alcohol in moderation, so clearly it is possible. It's really not that addictive if you don't have some physical or psychological predisposition to alcoholism.

Sorry, I was talking about sugar.

I mean, it is. We give it a different name and highly control it, but if you're getting end of life treatment for cancer or whatever, they give you powerful pain relievers in the hospital, under tight control.