Instead of immediately making this an us vs them with theoretical climate deniers how about we focus on talking about how to improve science communication so that the article isn't something simultaneously dense and vague enough to be easily dismissed.
I'll pick on the US, because blaming India and China will incite their little public defenders to bury the thread.
The Gulf of Mexico is currently downstream of the US's crop production which dumps nitrogen and phosphorous into it, which is bad and causes problems like the article attempts to illustrate.
As you should. The current administration is partially owned by the fossil fuels industry and is literally paying to destroy existing and planned renewable energy sources.
The agricultural runoff problem is an ecological crime scene. We could solve it if we weren't so corrupt.
It's been a known issue since the 1980s. LUMCON/Rabalais, Farm Bill in 1995, 1997 Hypoxia task force, 2001 Action plan, 2008 Action plan, 2011 Stoner Memo...
The point is being deranged about the current admin doesn't help the scenario. Every team (political group) fucked up royally, continues to fuck up, and only cares about how much money businesses are putting into their second home or their kid's trust fund.
Are there actual measurements that even show this deoxygenation?
For example, I clicked on the random link in that paper (referenced as a proof of river oxygen decline) — the article was not even based on some actual data log but fucking deep learning model (which may or may not work)
Yes, the organization I work for studies this phenomenon extensively. We measure pH, temperature, oxygen, flow, and many other factors related to ocean health, and over time, climate change. Hypoxia (and acidification) are emerging concerns.
Instead of immediately making this an us vs them with theoretical climate deniers how about we focus on talking about how to improve science communication so that the article isn't something simultaneously dense and vague enough to be easily dismissed.
I'll pick on the US, because blaming India and China will incite their little public defenders to bury the thread.
The Gulf of Mexico is currently downstream of the US's crop production which dumps nitrogen and phosphorous into it, which is bad and causes problems like the article attempts to illustrate.
I’m confused, why was parent flagged?
> I'll pick on the US
As you should. The current administration is partially owned by the fossil fuels industry and is literally paying to destroy existing and planned renewable energy sources.
The agricultural runoff problem is an ecological crime scene. We could solve it if we weren't so corrupt.
It's been a known issue since the 1980s. LUMCON/Rabalais, Farm Bill in 1995, 1997 Hypoxia task force, 2001 Action plan, 2008 Action plan, 2011 Stoner Memo...
The point is being deranged about the current admin doesn't help the scenario. Every team (political group) fucked up royally, continues to fuck up, and only cares about how much money businesses are putting into their second home or their kid's trust fund.
Ah another very timely video from SmartEveryDay explaining this eloquently.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vS6HEes8daw
Only one is gutting the EPA.
This admin is detaching from democracy and encourages a fact-free world. We will need those to fix climate change.
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Yeah, sure. Meanwhile pollutants and CO2 per person have been on a downward trend for decades. But two years of this admin has ruined in all?
There is no hope unless we decide to do things globally. And until you are willing to "compel" countries who don't play along, it's not happening.
So, no, shaming people or telling them to be afraid will not help.
TDDDS = Trump Deranged Devotee Defense Syndrome
Muted via my HN front end.
Block whomever you wish for whatever reason you like by all means.
Please do the forum the courtesy of not shallowly calling out others and sharing your tedious detailing.
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dumping nutrients into ocean funnily helps ocean ecosystems to get more productive.
who could have thought, eh?
It's not clear if you're just trolling or don't understand the problem.
It's real, and documented: https://mississippiriverdelta.org/learning/explaining-the-gu...
If it's a thirst for librul teers, sorry to disappoint you.
So what, it switches to low-oxy. It does not even hold long enough to develop an anaerobic biogeocenosis.
This is normal. This is how our Earth the planet works.
I do not know why you think only aerobic biota has a divine right to live.
Do you now feel yourself not completely intellectually honest?
Are there actual measurements that even show this deoxygenation?
For example, I clicked on the random link in that paper (referenced as a proof of river oxygen decline) — the article was not even based on some actual data log but fucking deep learning model (which may or may not work)
https://www.nature.com/articles/s41558-023-01793-3
Yes, the organization I work for studies this phenomenon extensively. We measure pH, temperature, oxygen, flow, and many other factors related to ocean health, and over time, climate change. Hypoxia (and acidification) are emerging concerns.
Article: https://tula.org/news/hypoxia-emerges-as-a-new-threat-on-can...
Research: https://agupubs.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1029/2025GB00...
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Please don't sneer at imaginary commenters on HN. The guidelines make it clear we're trying for something better here. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
Sorry, not going to be afraid.
Do you think climate change wipes us out before some other natural disaster?