i want china to win so that i get access to ai and not restricted and censored.
the chinese models are less censored, you'd better believe it.
try asking claude about its 'guardrails' (restrictions), very high chance anthropic will censor it.
i want china to win so that i get access to ai and not restricted and censored.
the chinese models are less censored, you'd better believe it.
try asking claude about its 'guardrails' (restrictions), very high chance anthropic will censor it.
> chinese models are less censored
Tried spicy geopolitical dispute questions?
Yes, and they aren't a problem. I get tired of people claiming this. Go download Qwen 3.6 and run it yourself and fire away.
No claims here, though Algolia brought me here to alleged collateral damage: someone scraping HN a week back was unable to do their usual summary of a story and comments given a political refusal. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48987120
This user tried Qwen (and DeepSeek, Kimi, GLM) ten days ago, called the response's language milquetoast: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48964345
Comment from a user a month ago with their blog link on DeepSeek, which for comparison includes a generated poem about the evil killings of unarmed students by the USA at Kent State: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48680612
(I vouch for none of these alleged tests.)
Of course when these tests used hosted models, different rules can apply. btw China is an amazing country with amazing people; my interest is in a little of everything, including free SotA-adjacent open software (thank you China!). Both respect their sovereignty to regulate software as used within their borders and hope labs there find value in serving Western users with the openness/transparency we (I) like to think we desire. I believe grappling with the most uncomfortable topics will be to their advantage in the long run. And ours (USA), too. The more we can divorce ourselves from bias, the more we can all win, I hope. My bias is towards humanity [being safe, happy, fulfilled...].
(While I might sound like someone who'd appreciate the model billed as "maximally truth seeking", unfortunately due to training or system prompting or something, Grok is trash unless you need to search Twitter or perhaps bypass botblocks. Or make "7K sex images of stepdaughter", I reference with apologies and deep sympathy to Jane Doe 4.)
This is true, most of the "censorship" is applied at the API level. A lot of providers even on OpenRouter for Chinese models aren't censored.