I dunno, ever used a thing you learned from a textbook in your job? Did you have to continue paying for the copy of that knowledge speed on your brain? No, because that's not what copyright is about.
Learning from and building on previous work is civilization. Copyright maximalism is a plague.
Yes but does the computer actually learn? Is the computer a person that read a book and remembered, a part and used that to create a novel idea or is it just cioy pasting the answer and then reselling that
A computer not, but a LLM model does learn. The original text in no way exists 'in the model', and the model does not copy-paste it and resell the original text. Not the same, but reasonably similar to a human.
We may need some new legislation. An LLM is not a person, but its also not just a storage solution.
Well, as not every book is a textbook, I'd say quite a lot of what I've read never went to any kind of knowledge in my head at all. But I reckon the author still deserves to eat.
You too deserve to eat. Does it mean we're all supposed to pay you in perpetuity for that HN comment you just posted, because we read it and it's encoded in our brains now?
No... But as we're discussing people who tried to pay nothing... Maybe they should have just bought the books in the first place. And comparing my single sentence on HN, to the hundreds of millions ingested, does suggest that maybe scale changes something.
Like most things said on social media, not being copyrightable.
Does buying the book not count? Why in perpetuity? Even patents expire after 17 years.
Am I an LLM?
Why does that matter?
> I dunno, ever used a thing you learned from a textbook in your job? Did you have to continue paying for the copy of that knowledge speed on your brain?
They are, presumably, human. We can perfectly well say that humans have certain rights without needing to give machines those same rights.
For example, we've more or less all agreed that it's fine for a human to watch a movie and enjoy the memories forever, and be inspired by it forever. But we've also more or less all agreed that that doesn't mean that a human can use a machine to record that movie and keep it forever.
> Learning from and building on previous work is civilization. Copyright maximalism is a plague.
The debate has existed for several generations at this point. You may disagree with the mainstream opinion, but it's disingenuous to frame it as "copyright maximalism".
If you buy the movie you most definitely have a copy that some machine made and you can keep it forever.
Yes. But you can't redistribute it. Which is what the AI companies are doing.
> I dunno, ever used a thing you learned from a textbook in your job? Did you have to continue paying for the copy of that knowledge speed on your brain?
Those regulations and principles are for humans.
Either the major LLMs are software tools deployed by ostensibly-profit-seeking companies, and regulations based on the notion that "making humans pay to make use of the things they've learned is profoundly antisocial" don't apply, or the LLM companies have a bigass swarm of unpaid -er- "servants", and labor laws and other human rights regulations do apply.