Indieweb is sometimes tied to self-hosting to give people configurabilty and flexibilty.

It does keep indieweb for the few and not the many.

Rather than self-hosting, IndieWeb advocate for managing hosting; like GitHub Pages or similar.

GitHub Pages requires subscriptions for private repos.

use Cloudflare.

Are you sure?

https://github.com/pricing

https://github.com/orgs/community/discussions/22817

GitHub Pages is free for public repos, which makes perfect sense for a public blog. IndieWeb content is public by design.

you guys keep shifting goal posts is nuts.

whatever critisism is just "IndieWeb decides not to do so".

not admiting own mistakes also goes hand-in-hand with it.

overall, recipe for disaster.

We're talking about public websites. Nobody moved the goalpost. It's always been about online presence, hence public websites.

no. you do move goalpost. you talking about public webiste, and now you need to make public entire git for it.

do you see difference between history of edits and internal documentation about the public website and public website itself? or sources to build website vs website itself? it is nuts not to see distinction of that.

github repo != public webpage. this is nuts.

ask street-bbq vendor or cleaning-lady or uber-driver what is a "GitHub"

If you can learn to make a hamburger, with or without AI, they can learn to manage their site.

Have you been past a tradies white van in the last 20 years?

They, if you're lucky, may have "davethepublumber.co.uk" and then "dave6969@gmail.com" printed on the side

Of course not.

Or at least they won't enjoy it.

Physical activity is enjoyable for most people, whereas mental is painful.

For me it's the exact opposite, and I don't think I'm alone. Now you've reminded me that I have to go to the gym this afternoon... :(

IndieWeb could and should find ways to make self-hosting turn key.

Some examples of that exist for sure.

Squarespace, Wix

If it's turnkey it can't be "self". Even if you could buy a magic hosting box to put in your home network, you would be dependent on its support.

"Say no to big tech by buying services"

Why?