Editorialised! No new products, not halts operations. Please be more careful.
OnePlus has decided to conclude new product rollouts in Europe and North America.
The difference matters for those of us on OnePlus devices:
Though we will no longer launch new products in Europe, our commitment to you remains unchanged. Backed by OPPO, existing OnePlus devices will continue to receive scheduled software updates and security patches within the support periods originally committed for each device model.
Etc.
Curiosly, they only say this to their European customers. It isn't clear that they plan to continue supporting North American customers.
Either way, eventually operations will halt, because existing products will be out of their update commitments.
Headline would be more accurate if it said "is winding down".
The headline would be more appropriate if it said "Oppo stops Sales under OnePlus brand"
For the past years OnePlus wasn't much more than a sub-brand for slightly redesigned Oppo devices anyway...
The regulations and requirements are much stricter in Europe, especially around warranty, repairs, and support. There's no wiggling out of that if you sell devices around here.
Americans get another message that's similar: https://www.oneplus.com/us/adjustment
OnePlus to NA: https://youtu.be/BwmuvqFzfLI?si=98Ae90_vzS-LFBmi&t=92
I agree, title should have been done a lot better than that.
I think we can read between the lines of the PR speak, though. That’s the rosiest possible way to put this news.
No new devices, support during warranty periods, they’re going to basically stop existing within a year or two.
They're also shuttering their (US) community site in 30 days.
https://www.oneplus.com/us/adjustmentSupport period != warranty period. The OnePlus 15 will get 4 years of Android updates and 6 years of security patches.
Will it? My level of doubt is high. There is very little recourse if the company decides to cease operations, which I think they will in the near future.
I think they could easily argue successfully that post-sale software updates were always contingent on continuing operation of the company.
Phone != The OS
After two years your battery will be almost unusable so genuinely it doesn't matter.
My only issue with oneplus phones, and I owned several of them already, is that they are running incredibly hot on normal usage, and battery capacity detoriates quickly over time.
They do have a great sleek UI and great hardware, not to mention fantastic supercharging capabilities which is a life saver sometimes, but all under the big cost.
Hmm my OnePlus 12 is 26 months old and battery is still phenomenal. I charge it to 80% and easily get a day of use, plugging in each night at 30-40%. I have not experienced it running hot yet.
I did not have battery issues with my OnePlus 7 Pro or OnePlus 9 Pro either. The 7 Pro gave me 3 days of battery! (I upgraded for camera improvements and faster screen refresh rate.)
My last one was 10 pro and battery is essentially dead after 2.5 years of usage. Can't make half of a day, literally unusable, and I'm not a big phone user. Case is made of some really good material, which feels very premium, but runs son fckn hot that you can't hold it in your hands anymore, this is especially true during hot summers, and it got only worse with the last major OS update. This is a heat dissipation issue caused by the materials used, large battery, and hi performance CPU cores so I don't think my case was any special than the others.
I see that the OnePlus 15 follows the same route, and although it has good reviews, and they claim they solved the battery heat dissipation and detoriation issues with some new kind of cells, it seems that it still runs hot according to some reviews I've seen on the yt.
Before that I had OnePlus 7 and more budget friendly Nord, and they were much better than 10 Pro, although 7 shared similar type of issues as 10 Pro. Nord is a bit different because case is not premium, and the battery is not so large, and the CPU is not premium nor the supercharging as well. However, it doesn't run hot and battery after few years of usage is still able to give you a full day without the problem.
I'm pretty convinced that all their flagships with hi performance CPUs, premium case, large battery, and fast charging suffer from the same issues.
Maybe mixed CPU core architecture is an answer to that issue, which might suggest why is so prevailing in other phone manufacturers but I have not dig that deep into the topic
> it seems that it still runs hot according to some reviews I've seen on the yt.
Never noticed it being even warm in normal use, consistently cold.
> this is especially true during hot summers
Sounds like not a phone problem -- very high screen brightness and/or direct sun would make any phone hot.
I am not an idiot, I am not keeping my phone on direct sunlight neither do I run on "very high brightness". The phone runs hot on normal circumstances, and in summer when the temperatures are getting higher it becomes unbearable. I hope you understand now.
I've misread that you're having consistent problems across different models, sorry.
If it's just 10 Pro, then google says Qualcomm was having bad years (I've heard about Snapdragon 888 fiasco, but apparently it extended to 8 Gen 1 in OP10)
Oneplus 15 uses a Si/C battery like other higher end Chinese phones currently. It doesn't get hot during normal operation (I don't play games on it) and since I don't use fast charging, for now it looks like it will work for a long time. Still get easily 2 days on a 80% charge.
> After two years your battery will be almost unusable so genuinely it doesn't matter.
Is this a new thing with newer OnePlus phones? We've had a OnePlus 7 and OnePlus 8 in our house for years and their batteries still work fine.
I had a similar issue with OnePlus 7 but not at this scale. It lasted me for 3, 3.5 years. I think this is becoming a problem more increasingly because of a beefier and beefier hardware that is put into these phones, and the heat dissipation problem hence becomes larger and larger problem which doesn't get automagically solved. I think that the best bet today is to take one with "subpar" CPU and larger battery and not so crazy supercharging capabilities
Interesting -- I thought OnePlus batteries were supposed to wear down LESS than other phones specifically because of their "High amp" charging technique versus "High voltage". After some quick research it seems this is mostly due to the heat generated during charging happens in the charger brick instead of the phone, keeping the heat away from the battery. But I suppose in real world situations it may not have a huge effect.
> After two years your battery will be almost unusable
After two years increasingly complex web apps will have made your hardware obsolete. Batteries can be swapped, bad web development at scale cannot be fixed.
Are you all making sure to set charge limits at night?
Set charge limits to 70%, supposedly quadruples your battery's life (in charging cycles).
My iPhones' batteries have all lasted a minimum of 5 years.
Having said that, my Nokia E71 and Communicator batteries are still usable after 20+ years.
> After two years your battery will be almost unusable so genuinely it doesn't matter.
My Nord 2T battery is still perfectly fine after 4 years.
I have no idea what the hell you're talking about.
Please see my other comment wrt Nord. What I am talking about is that flagship phones from OnePlus are suffering from the issues I described. I can't say every one of each suffers since my N=1 but the ones with the same characteristics and features I described above I am pretty sure that they do. There's a fundamental design flaw or we may call it a tradeoff.
Sad I have a 6 year old oneplus and was looking for a new phone somewhat soon, would've considered them again for sure. Any alternatives? They always had a reputation for me for being a great no fuss, little bloat and simply fast android phone.
Google’s phones are pretty good nowadays, I feel like they carry that ethos more than modern OnePlus phones anyway. Plus they can be unlocked trivially, which is officially supported, and you can install GrapheneOS on them.
I buy Pixel for GrapheneOS, but the hardware is terrible for the price. They charge flagship prices for what are mid-range SoCs. They are very heavy for the size (e.g. the 10/10 Pro are around 205g) and the weight distribution makes them feel like a brick. Battery life is very mediocre, even with almost no apps or other crap installed. They have also had a lot of hardware/software issues in recent years - spicy pillows, display issues, camera bars that fall off, software updates that resulted in boot loops for many people, etc. In (most of?) Europe, they farmed out repairs to another company and often reject warranty claims if there is as much as a scratch on the case.
I would only recommend Pixel if you want to run GrapheneOS. GrapheneOS is stellar and until next year, getting a Pixel is the only way to run it. Also, wait until midway the cycle of a model to get a large discount.
If you do not want to run GrapheneOS, do yourself a favor and either:
1.) Get a Samsung S series (or maybe A5x). It's the only phone besides Pixel that does reliable monthly updates, QPR2 and rolls out major updates fairly quickly. They have a separate secure enclave (Knox Vault). Also, after a few months the pricing is really good (e.g. an S26 with 256GB storage costs 620 Euro here now). You can pretty much remove all of the bloat, including Gemini, Google hot words, Bixby, etc. with UAD. The SoC, battery life, etc. will blow Pixels out of the water.
2.) Get an iPhone. The most secure phone after GrapheneOS and the hardware is well worth the price. Their support is stellar, easy to reach a human by phone, generally easy to get repairs.
> GrapheneOS is stellar and until next year, getting a Pixel is the only way to run it.
I'm hoping the Moto GrapheneOS phones will be solid. They will be my new primary option if so.
I just got a new phone a month ago. I wanted a Pixel so I could run GrapheneOS. After researching the hardware I ended up with a OnePlus 13. Google's hardware is far behind, buggy, and overpriced.
I have a OnePlus 13. Best hardware ever. Running lineage with microg + magisk and use nix on top of termux to install stuff using sudo, including AI harnesses - it's my portable AI workstation now.
That sounds like a fun setup. I need to try out something like that.
But a pixel is quite a bit more expensive no? At that point you can consider an iPhone?
If you'd prefer an Iphone if it weren't for price, you should probably have a look at refurbished Iphones.
If you are the kind of person who unlocks the bootloader and installs GrapheneOS, then definitely not.
The Pixel can run Graphene, which means you can permanently take control of the phone and give Google the boot. The iPhone is entirely controlled by Apple, and you are one OTA away from a hostile "upgrade." By default, everything on your phone is sent to Apple for "backup" too.
I got a pixel 10 for 350 a few weeks ago.
I have had a mixed experience. Bought my Mom a Pixel 9a. It seems to be running fine with no issues.
Bought a Pixel 10 Pro XL for myself and had to return it. Connectivity issues (WiFi connected, but no internet), screen losing colors (white would turn gray), ghosting issues (scrolled/hidden content would stay on screen for a period of time).
Try GrapheneOS?
Bit hard to do with a phone I no longer have in my hand. Additionally, I wasn't sure if that would void my warranty.
It did cross my mind, and I did buy it for the possibility to do that in the future if necessary, but I just wasn't in the position to actually do so.
People need to stop caring about warranties so much. Don't overpay, and have emergency funds. If you break something, fix it or replace it. When someone dropped my phone and cracked the screen, I spent 300€ on a new phone. Not 3000€ because I'm not an idiot.
Thanks for calling me an idiot I guess ...
I mean, I don't particularly understand how "caring about warranty" goes against what you've written after that. Replacing something for free is surely better than doing so for $300 dollars, no?
Are you saying I should have installed GrapheneOS on the phone, possibly discovered that the phone has hardware issues and then go out to buy another phone because I have an emergency fund? Or stick with a new phone that had issues?
Or maybe I have made a mistake by buying a phone more expensive than $300? I can see this one actually, but I was going for something that didn't have ads in every menu as the cheap Chinese phones I was using up until this point.
Outside of the used market, which I tend to ignore due to battery/performance degradation, there's no way for me to buy a Pixel for less than $300 anyways.
It isn't a free replacement. It's a $50 for a 50% chance of replacement if you need a replacement, and if you don't you still have to pay the $50.
This might come as a bit of a shock to you, but not everywhere has terrible customer protection. I was less interested in the (free) 2 year warranty than the 14 day free return mandated by the EU.
I wasn't really risking being denied, as long as I didn't break any rules.
Consumer protection doesn't normally include buying you a new phone if you damage it.
I got badly burned by the Pixel 5a, but especially with Google's support. My wife and I both had 5a, and both died spectacularly right around the end of warranty period. Mine ultimately got replaced under warranty and that replacement died the same way when I was on vacation less than a year later... which they refused to repair under warranty.
They put up such a shit show and had us run through so many hoops with my wife's phone that it ended up being out of warranty by the time they agreed it was broken and needed repaired. The support experience was so painful I reluctantly let them get away with their bullshit, bought a new phone (oneplus) for my wife, and swore not to buy another Pixel phone despite having a strong preference for them and the pure Android experience.
Be sure not to buy any 'branded' variant, though (e.g. from Verizon etc.)!
Nah the hardware is still crap. CPU performance that's genuinely like two generations behind being sold as a flagship somehow.
Is two generations ago before 2020? Everything is 100% more expensive than pre-2020 prices.
Eating out is there. Power Tools are there. Land is beyond that and Housing has been there for 6 years now.
I'm not surprised. The March of inflation has been a wreckening this decade.
I always wonder what people who say things like this are doing with their phones.
Two generations of phones ago, these performance parameters were fine. What software has come out on Android phones since then that's made that performance level unacceptable?
Pixel phones have always been behind in hardware power. They're not performing at budget level, but compared to most OnePlus devices they are way behind in performance. In the Android world performance means longevity. Any Pixel tensor chip or non-high-end Snapdragon or MediaTek chip has a "smoothness" lifespan of 2-3 years.
> In the Android world performance means longevity.
This is the assumption I'm challenging. What are people doing on their phones that makes a two year old phone feel two years old?
Maybe it's 3d gaming, I don't do any of that on my phone but for any productivity apps, I don't think I've noticed an effective difference in my phone for years.
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I think the issue is more the prices that Google charge for what is largely a mid-range phone (except maybe cameras). I don't think people would object as much if Google priced them as Pixels in the old days.
Prices usually get ok halfway the cycle, though this year not as much due to the RAM/SSD squeeze.
I wanted an Android phone without bloatware and ads so my 2 options were OnePlus and Nothing. I ended up buying the OnePlus because I disliked the huge back camera on the Nothing 3a Pro.
Today I'd go for the Bothing 4a/4a Pro.
I wish Nothing was supported by Verizon, would love to try one of their phones.
Why do you need your carrier to like your phone? Do they not mandate interoperability in your country? Are carriers using phone blacklists?
They usse carrier whitelists , Which is even worse.
I cannot activded a EU acquired Pixel for instance. Verizon no longer needs to carrier unlock phones after 60 days too :}
Theres multiple carrier that will auto disable you sim if you move it and charge you a fee for it too !
https://www.howardforums.com/threads/is-metro-charging-to-sw...
https://www.reddit.com/r/MetroPCS/comments/1maa4rt/how_much_...
All of this was such a mind fuck.
Land of the free
Nothing didn’t bother to support Verizon’s most important 4G band, it’s not blacklisted it just won’t work well outside of major cities.
https://www.theverge.com/23803460/nothing-phone-2-verizon-wo...
So use a different carrier?
Oppo is great, same company as OnePlus. I have the base Find X9 and I'm super happy with it. It's fast, it stays cool, and the battery lasts forever(had it for 8 months now and I still haven't finished a single day with less than 50% battery left, it's nuts)
> will continue to receive scheduled software updates and security patches
but wasn't this after they upgrade you to ColorOS? Where you then can reinstall the old one you're using right now, but will then no longer have updates?
Looks like OnePlus and OPPO are different companies. Shared ownership, but different companies.
Oppo owns OnePlus completely.
There used to be BBK Electronics that owned both, but it split up and OnePlus got placed under Oppo.
As other commenter said OnePlus is subsidiary of Oppo. Over past few years they were loosing autonomy / reusing more and more work by Oppo.
If you're worried about the firmware, then current day OxygenOS is just rebadged ColorOS. They just wont be pretending it's different now.
Only question/risk I see is Oppo trying to kill bootloader unlocking with an update.
For now. They'll reneg down the line
Does oneplus have that much market share in the US?
0.1% in 2025, which is honestly higher than I thought it would be. I've never even seen one.