I think limited rights for old people are like limited rights for children: justified because there is cognitive decline, and every individual (except children who tragically die young) gets to live some life with full rights.

The biggest problem is that it’s depressing. A child gets to look forward to growing up and having full rights, an old person is already looking forward to declining and dying and the loss of rights reflects that. Another problem is that, just as some old people are scammed, taking away rights will have other old people abused by their “caretakers” (e.g. one relative hurting them and stealing from them even against other relatives, which already happens).

So I want to see it implemented but tied with our culture restoring respect for old people, giving them a sense of purpose, and looking out for those who aren’t our relatives. Specifically including reforming retirement homes, many which take advantage of their residents, and stronger safeguards against abusive relatives who (already are seizing and) abuse POA. I’d like to hear what old people themselves think, because maybe I don’t (empathetically) understand the consequences, but although maybe outside the Overton Window logically it seems reasonable.

There's also the strain and discontent that comes with being the person who is taking away the rights and putting up guardrails for your loved ones. I opted not to do so for my mother shortly before she was scammed out of her life's savings, because I thought I could train her against scams.

Children are legally differentiated from adults purely based on age, not some formal verification. You get extra rights and obligations at 18, that’s a very objective criterion.

Declaring someone mentally unfit is anything but objective and it’s very ripe for abuse.

I’m saying that old people should also be differentiated by age: once you reach some age (maybe 70 or 80, the same age for everyone) you lose certain rights. This is separate from the existing system.

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