Signal and WhatsApp are bloated and slow in comparison.

What is slow?

I don't understand what there is to accelerate.

In Telegram, I can open a chat, find a sticker, send a sticker, post a circle story, and shitpost in another group chat. All while WhatsApp loads my chat history. That is on any platform and any network condition, except for fully offline.

Their desktop apps are just Qt and not WebView inside a Qt. Mobile apps are native and not React.

The main things that are slow are loading the app and opening the app, loading the messages, and receiving the messages. On my phone, this is much slower than Telegram, and on my computer, the WhatsApp program doesn't even work have the time -- it just gets stuck in the loading process.

Signal is not as bad, but can still take a minute or two to update everything on my computer. The phone app is better.

Sounds more like your personal problem.

I live in Germany and use both. None do that and as I'm "the IT guy" for many people at work an din private, I'd have heard about it. Hell, the whole continent would have heard about it as whatsapp is widely used.

My Signal also doesn't do that.

Since the whatsapp cliënt on desktop was replaced by a web wrapper it's even worse.

I don't even remember how the previous cliënt did it but my spelling suggestions are in English (as is the OS) but my chats are all in Dutch. Most words have a red underline.

It recently gave up downloading images. Turned out it was no longer allowed to write to its own folder. Not sure if this should be blamed on MS but from the (many) user perspective it just stopped working.

It keeps limited chat history which makes it inferior to IRC.

It badly wants you to use ai.

It has a spam channel where it promotes it self.

The phone app is decent tho

Exactly, signal is decent on all the platforms, while mobile clients for whatsapp is somewhat tolerable if you ignore the constant AI push. But the web/desktop client is a pain in the ass to use.

I agree on all the content related things but your argument was about speed.

I use whatsapp web every day at work. The page. In my Firefox browser. It's almost constantly open. Never had any issues with that. The phone app just does what it's supposed to do and even on my Pixel6, it's just fast. I mean there is always faster but it's not even a second.

I use Whatsapp only because I have to. Privately, I prefer Signal. Works also great. Same with the windows app. Been using both since day 1. On a Pixel7Pro....

Not at all, telegram clients in every platform are much much faster than whatsapp, signal etc. on the same platform. Although, this is more visible on older devices and on poor network conditions, I clearly see a difference in my newer devices too.

Could you give me one for Android which is really fast? I'd try that out on a phone with whatsapp and signal.

Also, what does "fast" mean? Fast on start?

There are three people in this thread with this "personal" problem.

It's the gold standard for bad support: pretend the user has a problem.

There once was this thread on a blog for a windows XP pirated edition. Someone commented that something small didn't work. They replied in less than a minute, that's terrible! 10 minutes later the version was incremented and a new reply said: Try the new version! After 30 minutes the bug fix was confirmed.

They weren't trying to be funny but it still makes me laugh how it compares to Microsoft, the 3 trillion software company.

I'm confused about how it is that because it hasn't happened to you or anyone you know, it's my personal problem that closed-source software that I have no capability to modify is working slowly or failing to work at all?

From USA, one mainly needs WhatsApp to chat with Latin Americans. Judging from the billboards I have seen in Argentina and Uruguay, there are a lot of Latin Americans getting WA free. So of course, why pay more?

>> why pay

Both WhatsUp & Telegram are completely free to use.

Telegram has premium features, but they are tangential to chatting & average use.