It feels like you are doing exactly what you criticize by putting "Nazi" as some sort of Disney villains. The reality is that the majority of the Nazi, the real ones, the ones who made the Nazi atrocities possible, where just humans like you and me, and they were "just" supporting the party because they've eaten the propaganda.
Some people that are called "Nazi" today are often __way more Nazi__ than these average Nazi citizen.
I would say the opposite as you: people like you put "Nazi" as the secular Satan, and because of that, real dangerous behavior can be ignored, the same real dangerous behavior that led, step by step, to the real Nazi atrocities.
> Some people that are called "Nazi" today are often __way more Nazi__ than these average Nazi citizen.
No, they aren't. This is the exact thing I was talking about but you can't seem to divorce your thinking from preestablished patterns. The Holocaust wasn't some universal evil. It was a genocide of Jews. The greatest incarnation of antisemitism seen in history. It wasn't a crime against the entirety of humanity. It was a crime against Jews that got appropriated. Antisemitism is the core of nazism, but since Jewish lives are cheap, no one gives a shit about that part, or about how post-war antisemitism in Austria and Germany gave rise to Hitler and the NSDAP. They haven't "eaten" the propaganda, they lived it before the nazis ever existed. Hell, Simon Wiesenthal was forced to invent 5 million non-Jewish victims of the Holocaust simply so people would give a shit about the whole thing (I'm not even going to mention that the whole "banality of evil" thing was based on false testimony.)
And when people are actual neonazis, they get excused. If you're familiar with American politics, you can see Platner as the most recent example.
> The word Fascism has now no meaning except in so far as it signifies ‘something not desirable’.
- George Orwell, Politics and the English Language (1946)
It is funny to see you both saying that people that are called "Nazi" today are not as bad as average Nazi citizen, and at the same time calling Platner a Nazi where apparently the only reason it is a discussion topic is because he was dumb enough to pick randomly a tattoo design.
This is a good illustration of the hypocrisy of a very common portion of the "people called other people nazi too much" people: they don't have any problem of, themselves, calling people they don't like Nazi even when the links are even weaker. They don't have any argument, it is just an emotional reaction.
"Why didn’t you stop it before it started? Why did you wait until it was too late?" https://www.currentaffairs.org/news/2018/07/how-horrific-thi...
It feels like you are doing exactly what you criticize by putting "Nazi" as some sort of Disney villains. The reality is that the majority of the Nazi, the real ones, the ones who made the Nazi atrocities possible, where just humans like you and me, and they were "just" supporting the party because they've eaten the propaganda.
Some people that are called "Nazi" today are often __way more Nazi__ than these average Nazi citizen.
I would say the opposite as you: people like you put "Nazi" as the secular Satan, and because of that, real dangerous behavior can be ignored, the same real dangerous behavior that led, step by step, to the real Nazi atrocities.
> Some people that are called "Nazi" today are often __way more Nazi__ than these average Nazi citizen.
No, they aren't. This is the exact thing I was talking about but you can't seem to divorce your thinking from preestablished patterns. The Holocaust wasn't some universal evil. It was a genocide of Jews. The greatest incarnation of antisemitism seen in history. It wasn't a crime against the entirety of humanity. It was a crime against Jews that got appropriated. Antisemitism is the core of nazism, but since Jewish lives are cheap, no one gives a shit about that part, or about how post-war antisemitism in Austria and Germany gave rise to Hitler and the NSDAP. They haven't "eaten" the propaganda, they lived it before the nazis ever existed. Hell, Simon Wiesenthal was forced to invent 5 million non-Jewish victims of the Holocaust simply so people would give a shit about the whole thing (I'm not even going to mention that the whole "banality of evil" thing was based on false testimony.)
And when people are actual neonazis, they get excused. If you're familiar with American politics, you can see Platner as the most recent example.
> The word Fascism has now no meaning except in so far as it signifies ‘something not desirable’.
- George Orwell, Politics and the English Language (1946)
It is funny to see you both saying that people that are called "Nazi" today are not as bad as average Nazi citizen, and at the same time calling Platner a Nazi where apparently the only reason it is a discussion topic is because he was dumb enough to pick randomly a tattoo design.
This is a good illustration of the hypocrisy of a very common portion of the "people called other people nazi too much" people: they don't have any problem of, themselves, calling people they don't like Nazi even when the links are even weaker. They don't have any argument, it is just an emotional reaction.
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Without mentioning the offensiveness of your comment, what exactly made you think I was American?
That discussion is not interesting and is not going anywhere. Sorry I'm stopping it.