That's copyright infringement. They do not have the rights to distribute the movies.

Neither does Sony (anymore), apparently. They still sold them.

and redefined the terms of "sold" in their contract to mean "rent, with a one-time fee"

it is more immoral to sell something you can't legally "sell" (permanently and irrevocably transfer ownership of a product), than to pirate that content (which has no level of expected payment)

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Sony sold them while they still had the license with a clause that they could remove them at any time.

> with a clause that they could remove them at any time.

Then they did not sell them.

That's not selling, that's renting

Yep. That's the argument.

People don't like that though. We should change the laws so that is illegal. We can just make laws we want--we're allowed to do that.

You're right, we should strive for compliance with copyrights and distribution licenses in our personal lives.

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they don't host or distribute movies, they distribute torrents/magnets.. the speakeasy might be illegal, but telling people where to find one is not.

Let me just say, I fuckin love piracy, but it's more like a speakeasy that piped booze in from everyone's house into the bar instead of just keeping the bottles above the bar. Booze all the same though

I dislike the term "pirate" when used to describe unauthorized reproductions of a work. I prefer neutral terms like "archivist". Calling someone a pirate reduces the conversation to pejorative labeling, i.e. a dysphemism. When we turn a blind eye to that, or worse we embrace it, we lose the opportunity to have a balanced/adult discussion about what is and should be legal.

But you can actually purchase them at 100% discount. And you can own as long as you want. Seems a much better deal.

Why do you think we all go there

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