Tahoe was such a huge mess, but I'm hopeful that the new CEO will turn things around and bring things back to normal.
If they do, I'll consider upgrading both OS and laptop, but right now I'm holding on to Sequoia
Tahoe was such a huge mess, but I'm hopeful that the new CEO will turn things around and bring things back to normal.
If they do, I'll consider upgrading both OS and laptop, but right now I'm holding on to Sequoia
It really was Mac OS X's Vista moment.
Edit: It'll always be Mac OS X to me, not macOS.
Windows Vista primarily suffers from technical issues. Aero is virtually unchanged in 7.
Yes! You are not alone. The name Mac OS X has always felt special to me.
OS X? Surely you mean Rhapsody
Mac OS X 27.
10.27?
But that means there were two each of 10.11, 10.12, 10.13, 10.14, and 10.15 :-)
They have a new head designer too IIRC, but probably is going to take some time for him to slowly move away from the mess he inherited.
Alan Dye was brought in during the Jony Ive era when they were launching the first Apple Watch because he came from a fashion/print background. Before Apple really figured out what the Watch was going to be (a health/fitness accessory for your phone) they were going for the "luxury fashion" angle.
Somehow when Ive left, Dye got put in charge of design even though he had zero experience in software design that anyone seems to be aware of. He was criticized for the years following for a lot of bizarre design regressions that were happening across all of Apple's OSes. Then a few months after Dye himself announced Liquid Glass at WWDC last year, he blindsided Apple by accepting a poaching offer from Meta, seemingly because Zuck isn't aware of how untalented the guy is.
Now Stephen Lemay is in charge, who's been at Apple for many years and actually knows stuff about software design. It's said that within the walls of Apple, a lot of people were very happy about the change, and the first showing of design changes we got since then are looking very good for Apple.
> seemingly because Zuck isn't aware of how untalented the guy is.
Maybe Zuck just wanted his laptop to get better.
> Now Stephen Lemay is in charge, who's been at Apple for many years and actually knows stuff about software design
And who was Dye's second in command, and who was integral in coming up with Liquid Glass, designing it, and forcing it down everyone's throat.
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The bit about internal rumblings at Apple I definitely read from him but the rest is just things we saw play out publicly over the past decade.
I have no real love for Alan Dye but you should probably understand that Gruber feels it is a personal affront that someone might work for a company that is not Apple.
Are you suggesting Gruber is upset at Dye for leaving Apple?
We all disliked Dye before he left. People were taking potshots at Apple's design direction under him for 10 years.
He thinks Dye was never good enough to be at Apple and that he would think of leaving proves it
Is there something you perceive as unfair about judging a guy on the output of the work he was responsible for over a long period of time?
You will note that this is not what is being judged as I described in my comment that you just replied to
Gruber does not have a monopoly on disliking Alan Dye’s work. On the contrary, I never met anyone who knew UI design was a thing that liked what he did.
When you’re using a tool for 40 years and someone who really has no clue gets in charge, starts breaking basic functionality for no good reason and affecting your day to day work, it’s not hard to get infuriated.
How do you think thay worked? Alan Dye alome came up with, designed and somehow forced Liquid Glass into every platform? Lemay, who was his second in command had nothing to do with it? It was Alan Dye single-handedly doing it?
I am very, very curious how he reached, stayed that long at the top of the org chart and convinced so many people that this was a good direction to take.
If I were at Apple's leadership I'd consider that a major blindspot and focus deeply on fixing it.
Perhaps (any of these can be true, or false):
- He wasn't the only one pushing it? Lemay was described in Bloomberg as one of the key people behind Liquid Glass
- The vision wasn't as bad as it turned out to be, but it was rushed because of yearly releases and Apple having nothing to present?
- None of the senior leadership use the devices beyond occasionally, so they couldn't care less what's happening to the UX?
On your first point, I don't know if Lemay merely agreed to keep his job or was an enthusiast of the vision. But it is a bit worrisome, if Bloomberg is to be believed.
On your second, Liquid Glass is merely the culmination of years of bad direction. Hiding essential feature on hover (notification's close icon, elapsed time on Apple Music, proxy icon, etc), poor contrast, legibility, background/foreground differentiation, was a long running process.
On your third point, I think it's possible and, if that's the case, deeply troubling.
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> slowly move away from the mess he inherited.
The mess he actively implemented and was an integral part of?
Why do people keep thinking that Alan Dye was the only person (apparently with God-like powers) who somehow forced and designed Liquid Glass alone, in isolation, and somehow sneaked it in to every Apple platform.
Because he's now a Traitor, an Un-person, so every sin can be safely attributed to him without losing faith in the glorious Party.
Such is the world of Apple fans.
Apple CEOs always seem to want to make a splash via hardware (especially since the guy worked in hardware engineering) but it would be nice if an engineer brings more focus on the software as well.
Same. Apple and Adobe seem to constantly have updates that feel one step forward, two steps back in a lot of places.
Golden Gate is better but it hasn't fixed your icons unfortunately
The thing which kills me, is that with entirety of the State of California's Gazetteer to pull from, Apple didn't pull a page from Android and use an alphabetically ordered naming scheme so that folks could determine ordering of versions.
You know, someone should invent an infinite sequence of ordinal symbols which we could use to place things in a sequence. It could start with a simple vertical line, something like "1". Maybe someone more clever than me can come up with the next symbol.
Unfortunately, I lost track of how Mac OS X was numbered after 10.7.whatever the last iteration was.
Doesn't much matter, since 10.6.8 was the last version I truly enjoyed using.
Codenames are meant to tickle the pride of this or that manager, not be useful to customers.
They also need to function as workable identifiers, and their being confusing works against folks.