Someone else on this forum put it well, U.S. is trying to achieve AGI at all costs, while Chinese models are seeking widespread adoption.
Someone else on this forum put it well, U.S. is trying to achieve AGI at all costs, while Chinese models are seeking widespread adoption.
> U.S. is trying to achieve AGI at all costs
If that was true, they would be collaborating with each other and opening up all the results from their work.
None of the AI companies in the US are on the path to AGI. They are, however, on the path to claiming they have AGI, then subsequently not releasing it and only giving it to the US government to make drones that can bomb the homes of political dissidents.
What kind of off topic political ideology spam is this? Do you not think that the Chinese kill their enemies?
The Chinese are genociding Uyghurs as we speak, purely for being Muslim, in numbers that dwarf any harm the US has done.
> in numbers that dwarf any harm the US has done.
The list of wars the US is or was actively involved in[0] is SO LONG that the Wikipedia page is split into multiple different pages.
The main relevant ones are 20th[1] and 21st century[2], for which you better get a good grip on your mouse to scroll down.
I urge you to use your favorite AI to give you a rough summary of direct and indirect casualties of just those wars directly caused, started, or provoked by the US, from these lists.
For example, the "war on terror" alone has, so far, seen around 4.5–4.6 million+ people killed, and at least 38 million people displaced.
[0]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lists_of_wars_involving_the_Un...
[1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_wars_involving_the_Uni...
[2]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_wars_involving_the_Uni...
The US funds Israel and it is only those funds and military aid that keep it from collapsing unto itself. That's the state that orchestrates the largest scale genocide by a "first world" power since WW2, as recognized by the United Nations and independent organizations like the Amnesty International.
https://amnesty.ca/wp-content/uploads/2024/12/Amnesty-Intern...
Nothing China did comes close to this.
> as recognized by the United Nations
its not, this would require voted resolution to declare genocide. It was some report on inquiry by individuals with unknown bias.
I don't think anthropic/openai/google aren't also seeing widespread adoption. In fact they already have they already have the marketshare.
The difference is that the US companies are using it as a means to an end, they need to make just enough profit that the investors don't all get cold feet before they get to AGI. The Chinese companies on the other hand are trying to be profitable immediately, which means that they're going slower to save development costs.
Everyone wants widespread adoption, of course. I'm sure that China is also working on more expensive frontier intelligence models behind doors, but they're lagging behind America on that front. Going for cost-optimized open weight models is their bet to stay relevant in a market where they can't compete for the "luxury" segment. It is important for them to get a foot in the door and maintain a presence in the press to attract future customers, given the general animosity towards China in the west that they need to overcome. Similarly, European providers like Mistral are hopelessly outclassed in every respect and thus try to carve out a niche in the market with regulation and anti-American fearmongering. They position themselves as "privacy-conscious" not out of goodwill but because it is their only chance to survive as a company with an utterly inferior product.
I didn't think of the European angle, that's something I can update in my synthesis.