Do you and GP understand that it's not 1998 anymore and that many, many different types of people from all walks of life play games?

I'm very curious what you and others think the average Steam user really looks like.

Going out on a limb here, maybe they think the average gamer isnt trans?

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What does that have to do with anything?

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Is the implication here that the people shown in that video are trans? How do we determine that?

Oh I think we can determine

How? Please explain.

They look undeniably trans. Any other questions?

Yes. What does undeniably trans mean? Can you explain what makes you so confident? How is this provable?

The average steam user is a mid twenties straight male. The average steam user in USA is a mid twenties straight white male. The average steam user nowhere on earth is anything resembling these marketed demographics

The average steam user is intersex, leaning male. The _median_ steam user is male. Neither is terribly representative of the market as a whole.

How representative of the market do you think a transgender person is? Probably less so?

Why are we bringing trans people into this discussion? Are you accusing the people in the video of being trans? If so, why? How do you know?

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…you do understand that an intersex person is not the same thing as a trans person, right? Or is this another one of those cases where ‹checks notes› one is pretending to not to understand things?

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Do you have any actual data to back this up? Because it doesn't really line up with my experience.

Go on Steam, look at the most played games right now, look at the demographics for those games.

Or pick some player profiles at random, count how many girls vs guys you find (very easy to tell with high accuracy just by looking at the games they play, yes there are exceptions but they're actually quite rare, I promise you can get >90% accuracy after you do a few).

Steam user base is at least 3/4 male by user count, probably even more by play time.

Maybe, due to the budget specs, they figure the “cozy gamer” demographic will be their sweet spot. Hence the Stardew Valley video and Cuphead with its retro/nostalgic graphics. The people they showed do seem like they’d fall into that demographic, which would be less concerned with their FPS counts and playing games that don’t stress the system as much, generally speaking.

That is confusing. The Nintendo switch is half the price, and plays all of those games. Why would someone want to buy the more expensive Steam machine just to play 2d pixel art games?

> look at the most played games right now, look at the demographics for those games.

Doesn't Steam have a very long tail? Most played might not be very representative.

Maybe young men are just boring and all play mostly just a few games, while majority of players that are more diverse have their interests spread more evenly across others?

Clearing up confusion about a demographic by assuming things about other demographics seems like a bad idea.

I'm not clearing up confusion, I'm letting you know it's pretty easy for everybody to see that you're wrong. If you want to continue being wrong just because the method used doesn't meet your very rigorous standards, suit yourself. Emperor's new clothes and all that.

It's just a bit strange how 'everybody' doesn't seem to include me - based on my own experiences gaming over 20 years not lining up with any of this silliness - as well as others in this thread.

In any case, I don't think "not wanting to make assumptions about people based on little to no information" really counts as "very rigorous standards".

Which part? Are you actually claiming that in your experience steam gamers are mostly black, mostly gay, mostly women, or what? Because that would be a shocking statistic we'd probably know about given the general population demographics of race/orientation, and general interaction with the female sex in real life.

I would not claim Steam users are "mostly" any of those groups, frankly.