Calling it an IDE is under-representing cursor
They have in-house models, and the data to train even more powerful ones. The cursor team is a proper AI lab.
Calling it an IDE is under-representing cursor
They have in-house models, and the data to train even more powerful ones. The cursor team is a proper AI lab.
> Calling it an IDE is under-representing cursor
On the contrary, it's over selling it: it's a not even a stand-alone IDE (like Zed, for instance) it's a mere fork of VSCode.
Isn't their in-house model just Kimi?
See here https://cursor.com/blog/composer-2-5
85% of the compute for the final model is from them, and not the base Kimi model.
That just means it cost a lot.
Does it perform meaningfully better than the Kimi model given all that extra compute? And proportionally to the amount spent?
That's something for us and benchmarks to decide
However it definitly isn't _just_ Kimi. The weight will be different after that 85% of extra training on top of the base model.
If those different weights are better are worse doesn't change that it's in most meaningful ways not the same as the base one.
I would encourage you to lookup their blog posts about their post training process if you want a bit more faith that they aren't running an extra 85% of compute and burning money with no-ops.
"Just Kimi" is hyperbole, to be clear.
I don't think it's all no-ops. Still don't think it's a particularly relevant model/company/product.
I'll defer the reading until I see signal that they have something worthwhile. I've watched a couple interviews and used the product, neither of which impressed me.
They use Kimi and post-train it on the same stuff that anyone with a Github dump can feed it. They aren't doing anything that you can't do yourself.
Dumping github into a model is not post training, thats pre training. And every base model already has all of github.
Composer post training is clearly very good, only second to Anthropic and OpenAI.
It does irk me a bit that they try to hide the fact that it's based on a chinese pretrained model though.
Meh. On an outcomes analysis, I've found Cursor's delivery to be exceptionally weak.
Good luck to the alt-economy of SpaceTesla though, may all our 401ks survive.
Their “in house models” are reportedly basically just Kimi.
Replied on the other comment about this, but putting it here:
> See here https://cursor.com/blog/composer-2-5
> 85% of the compute for the final model is from them, and not the base Kimi model.
Of course they could be lying, but it seems feasible that they are adding a lot on top of this