Bellard is a genius. Carmack's modesty about his own genius is impressive too.

It didn't strike me as modest, to compare oneself to another who is known to be great.

"Van Gogh is almost certainly a better painter than I am" -Monet

I wouldn’t call comparing yourself to Fabrice Ballard and not just saying he’s a better programmer modest.

Yeah he phrases it odd. Like with the "almost certainly" and "overall" qualifiers. Not "he is a better programmer than I would dream to be..."

"He is almost certainly a better overall programmer than I am."

That is a work of art in and of itself. It's genius narcissism.

"almost certainly", "overall programmer", are we really going there? Are we 16?

Why even do the comparison? Fabrice is not a "programmer". He is an engineer. Programming is a medium he often works in and that medium is completely meaningless in and of itself. I would be offended if someone called me a "programmer".

Had the same reaction to Carmack's wording.

I don't agree about the distinction between programming and engineering; to me it's all programming, engineering is just the word we started using to make it sound higher status.

Fair enough. I can see your point about engineering, but in this case I find it hard to classify the generic SaaS programmer and the guy calculating Pi to 2700 billion digits on his workstation using his own formula - which actually is the innovation here - under the same rubric, but I guess that boat has sailed a long time ago.

Odd example given the SaaS programmer might be doing actual engineering but the math calculation is not engineering by definition. Which is not to say the latter is not more impressive.

Him thinking or saying that he is a great programmer isn’t narcissistic in the grand scheme of things.

Especially if you consider ignorant people who don’t even know how to program are writing about “the future of programming” now and a ton of people are reading them.

Same about mathematics and w/e unlucky subject is attacked by the slopmasters.

It is fair for a person who programmed his whole life to assume he is a good programmer IMO

HN audience is almost certainly overall more mature than a 16 year old nerd.