Im quite bullish on CS degrees, they equip you with a network and the general "vibe" of being in a common environment with other smart passionate kids that push you to challenge yourself

also right now nothing is higher signal than a new grad who built a product with actual paying users

Ironic. I did both a humanities and a CS degree. The CS degree was filled with either south asian internationals or people who just want to make money. The rest were antisocial dudes. Humanities however was filled with young social women. The experiences I got from the latter was a huge ego and confidence boost.

highly dependant on school ofc

i went to a top cs school and loved it, it raised the ceiling of what i thought was even possible, coming from a country where cs was not seen as an interesting or desirable job at the time

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> who built a product with actual paying users

How could this possibly signal competence? I think it just signals capital and free time.

what do you mean? we're hiring new grads because we think they will make the company money. most of our hires are from top schools so they're already proven to be smart

right now most resumes are zero signal because any new grad can whip up an impressive sounding project using ai with zero paying users. but knowing what to build, having good product sense and taste, talking to customers, iterating and not giving up are much more desirable skills

youd be surprised how many new grads with capital and free time have zero business skills

There is a weird assumption nowadays that “making money = you’re an expert and know what you’re doing.” The best X is the one that makes the most cash, full stop.

Very scary for the future, unfortunately.

hmm i dont think any new grad is an expert and knows what they're doing (if im understanding you right)

but the skills we used to look for in new grads are shifting as coding agents make execution easy, a new grad with good business sense is really valuable