> no one would use cloud providers

I think many are trying to move away from US providers actually. FISA section 702 and the current administrations liberties taken towards international law are not helping. The trust problem is real.

Not sure I’d trust China with anything onshore. But offshore, it does seem they play by the rules, because it pragmatically serves the stability of the people. China has not started wars in the past 50 years or so. By that logic one may assume they’d not abuse the arguably broad powers over Chinese firms abroad to risk one now.

In a world where rules are increasingly less important how states use power matters more to me than how they claim to be monitored.