> They were wrong about self driving cars

only in the bubble you live in

> So I have to say unless there's something evidence based or substantial here it's likely given HN track record that most people here will end up being another wrong, baseless and over confident answer.

Again only in the bubble you live in. You want evidence? There are zero killer app products out there. Not even one, the ones that seems impressive like bun zig to rust, it's just an experiment and will see how bad it will unravel.

And the existing products? They get shittier day by day at rate not seen before.

Or are u building one via codex inside the ai car while u eat a burrito?