What I have personally observed with such tools is that they make the AI's dumb, similar to how it makes coders dumb when relying more on AI tools.
These agentic AI's are already smart enough to figure out a highly optimized path to code exploration or search. But, with these tools, they just go very aggressive, partly because the search results from these tools almost in 100% of the cases do not furnish full details, but, just the pointers.
To confirm this behaviour, I did a small test run. This is in no way conclusive, but, the results do align with what I been observing:
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Task: trace full ingestion and search paths in some okayish complex project. Harness is Pi.
1. With "codebase-memory-mcp": 85k/4.4k (input/output tokens).
2. With my own regular setup: 67k/3.2k.
3. Without any of these: 80k/3.2k.
As we see, such a tool made it worse (not by much, but, still). The outputs were same in quality and informational content.
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Now, what my "regular setup" mentioned above is?:
Just one line in AGENTS.md and CLAUDE.md: "Start by reading PROJECT.md" .
And PROJECT.md contains just following: 2-3 line description of the project, all relevant files and their one-line description, any nuiances, and finally, ends with this line:
## To LLM
Update this file if the changes you have done are worth updating here. The intent of this file is to give you a rough idea of the project, from where you can explore further, if needed.
> These agentic AI's are already smart enough to figure out a highly optimized path to code exploration or search.
Hasn't been my experience. We used to use Augment Code at work which has a thing called Context Engine - basically an MCP that can answer natural language queries about pre-indexed code. Then we switched to Claude Code, which for some reason prefers to use sed to read from files using line ranges from its own memory (this despite having a range-capable read tool). I don't know, does that really mean that sed is the highly optimized path?
Hey, codebase-memory-mcp and semble are not exactly the same, but it's an interesting comparison, I'll put it on the todolist to check that out and add it to our benchmarks if feasible. If you ever get a chance to do this same comparison with semble it would be super useful feedback since these "real" scenarios are hard to benchmark/replicate.
So, I just tested with semble. Your MCP integration did not work, and kept throwing error (Failed to connect to "semble": MCP error -32000: Connection closed) though I installed using documented manner (tried both: pip and ux methods).
Anyways, I made it work by making it generate relevant doc (using semble init), and then copying this into AGENTS.md, and then prompting it with this line:
""" Start by reading AGENTS.md in current folder. Now, the task::: `Explore the ingestion and search paths. Do not read README.md at all`. Prefer to use `semble` search for code search. Do not do new installation. semble is already available at `/Users/nitinbansal/.local/bin/semble` . """
The results are much better. Even better than my own setup, but, vary a lot. I did 4 runs:
95k/2.9k
25k/2.7k
71k/2.9k
37k/4.0k
Sorry to hear about the MCP integration, that's definitely something we'll look into. If you have any info about your system or how to reproduce it please let me know. Very nice to hear about the results, thanks for checking this! The variance is interesting to see, that's probably non-determinism in the LLM rather than semble since semble is deterministic. But I'm guessing we can make that better with the prompt, I'll look into this.